Talk:Dambisa Moyo, Baroness Moyo

Bias
This page should be watched. Moyo, ONE and other critics on both sides are in disagreement about many policy aspects of this book. Further edits may be necessary to remove bias from this entry. It is suggested that, in accordance with the living person biography policy, that controversial information not be added to this entry, unless it is contributed by someone who is not biased and can demonstrate verifiable information. It is the burden of the contributer to demonstrate both of these to be true for new items to be added. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Justthefacts1234 (talk • contribs) 05:16, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Did some cleanup here because NPOV was nowhere in evidence and lots of unsupportable claims were being made, e.g. "She is the first African-born economist to write a book addressing the problems with aid." Definitely keep a watch on this page.--Tcnjo (talk) 19:56, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I went through and double-checked about half the given citations, and found problems with almost everyone - such as the given reference not supporting the article content, or being on an entirely different topic. Probably the most amusing was the phrase "The President of Liberia, Ellen Johnson-Sirleaf, has been more luke-warm about phasing out aid" cited to a Washington Post opinion piece by Johnson-Sirleaf in which the second line includes "the global financial crisis threatens to undo this progress by reducing investment, exports and aid just as they should be expanding."  I'm not sure in what world bemoaning diminishing aid amounts is the same as being "lukewarm." Heh. I also tried to give some context as this article makes it sound like pro-market economists haven't been making this exact argument for decades.
 * I would assume that the rest of the citations are as problematic as the ones I checked, but don't have the time to do them all. - BanyanTree 01:44, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

I would also agree that there is bias in favour of her convictions. There should be greater appreciation that they are controversial. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.20.4.173 (talk) 19:21, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

The Telegraph review of 'winner take(sic?) all' has been manipulated; the book was awarded 1/5 stars and the sentence quoted is simply the most positive in the whole piece. 86.158.214.204 (talk) 06:26, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

Born 1969 in Lusaka
No place in the article for this information: Dambisa Moyo (born 1969 in Lusaka). -- Netpi (talk) 18:17, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

She is described in the box as 'Zambian' but I wonder, given her education and employment history, whether she is now a naturalised US citizen? She has certainly referred to the what 'we' are doing in Afghanistan - e.g. BBC Qusetion Time 1/10/09 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tagilbert (talk • contribs) 20:39, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

Harvard M.A.?
Does anyone know what subject her Harvard M.A. is in? The article makes it seem like her M.A. is in economics, but I can't find an economics graduate degree offered by the Kennedy School of Government. In fact, I can't find any M.A. offer by KSG. I see an M.P.P. and an M.P.A., but no M.A. If it comes from Harvard, wouldn't a Master of Arts degree be called an A.M., anyhow? --JHP (talk) 10:03, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
 * The article's infobox claimed she has a Ph.D. from Oxford, but Oxford doesn't offer a Ph.D. in economics. Their doctorate is a DPhil., not a Ph.D. --JHP (talk) 10:22, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

Notability infobox
Someone added a notability infobox without anything here to explain why.

Maybe the article has grown since then but it certainly justifies her inclusion now so I'm deleting the box. filceolaire (talk) 06:51, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Copy edit
Just a heads-up that I will be performing a general copy edit of this article in the next few days. It'll consist mosly of an expansion, referencing and uncontroversial edits. I am planning to create 3 new articles on each of her books, so I will be trimming down those subsections here, placing a Main hatnote where appropriate. That might take a bit more time, but hopefully not that long! Let me know if you have any questions; you can always find me on my talk page. Regards, CesareAngelotti (talk) 21:23, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

Assessment comment
Substituted at 12:43, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

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Cleanup
I've cleaned up the article and removed all the bloat, puffery, and excess detail. The word count is now less than half of what it was previously. Therefore, I am going to remove the tags at the top. Stophorus (talk) 05:40, 3 September 2022 (UTC)

Billionaire Jared Smith, co-founder of Utah-based cloud computing company Qualtrics
The article mentions that Lady Moyo is married to "billionaire Jared Smith, co-founder of Utah-based cloud computing company Qualtrics." I put brackets on his name which resulted in a red link. I thought that red links are intended to inform people that the person has no Wikipedia article and that, maybe, possibly, the person should have an article. Notwally is apparently offended by red links and asserts that "Billionaire Jared Smith, co-founder of Utah-based cloud computing company Qualtrics" must be unimportant, since his link is red.

I have no idea whether this billionaire merits an article or not. Billionaires usually cause some ripples in the economy and society and might be worthy of an article. I created the red link for Jared Smith to alert anyone who might want to write an article about him that he does not have an article now. Is this an illicit motive to create a red link?

Rather than get in a revert war with Notwally, I'm putting this comment here in the event anyone cares enough about "billionaire Jared Smith" to write an article about him. Pascalulu88 (talk) 14:48, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
 * As per WP:REDLINK, you should include red links in articles "to indicate that a page will be created soon or that an article should be created for the topic because the subject is notable and verifiable". If you do not plan on creating the article and do not think they are notable (as you just said), then you shouldn't be putting in a wikilink for them. From my brief internet search, he did not look notable, which is why I removed it. Simply because a person is a billionaire is not a reason to add red links to articles. – notwally (talk) 21:21, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Fine, but there can be more than one reason to create a redlink. We do not need to be overly pedantic about it do we? Remember the Wikipedia project Women in Red? I constantly encounter people who have justifiably substantial articles in other language Wikipedias (e.g. the Portuguese novelist Joaquim Paço D'Arcos) who have no article yet in English Wikipedia. There is more to making a popular encyclopedia than being overly rigid about how we use own self-created templates, right? Pascalulu88 (talk) 22:47, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
 * There are two reasons for adding a red link, which are both quoted in the policy above. Someone who is evidently notable in another country is not relevant to this discussion when you have said "I have no idea whether this billionaire merits an article or not". – notwally (talk) 23:03, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
 * You are missing my point but I don't think it's worth the time to make it again. Pascalulu88 (talk) 01:44, 18 July 2024 (UTC)