Talk:Damn Yankees (band)

Untitled
Is it necessary to list the band members twice?

I listed them twice to distinguish the band members' different home states.

Generally, when you have to repeat a person's name, you use only their last name on the repeat reference. It's also a great solution to the first complaint/comment.

Here I Come Again
The band also had a single called 'Here I Come Again', from their first album, I believe. They also shot a video for it.

Actually, it was called "Come Again," and they shot two videos for the song.

Colloquial Vocabulary
The term "American" to refer to United States citizens is colloquial. Since 1507, when German geographer Martin Waldseemüller coined the word "America", it has been the name of the whole continent, from Canada to Argentina. No official US government or UN documents refer to the USA as simply "America". "American band" might as well refer to Brazilian or Mexican bands. The use of colloquial terms should be discouraged in a serious encyclopedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 181.47.183.193 (talk) 03:28, 18 February 2018 (UTC)

Don't Tread
As of January 17, 2011, the RIAA Gold and Platinum Searchable Database shows that Don't Treat has only been certified Gold, so I fixed the inaccuracy on the Damn Yankees page which said it was certified Platinum. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.64.108.239 (talk) 19:25, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

The album cover wasn't "lackluster."

Damn Yankees Glam?
Damn Yankees was a classic rock band, never glam metal, end of the world! —Preceding unsigned comment added by MATHEUS HS (talk • contribs) 17:06, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Well I quite agree for most songs they were hard rock, but they had some influence as allmusic.com states. Provide source for what you are saying please. FateForger (talk) 14:52, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

Hello FateForger's good to talk to you again after the civil discussion we had on Heartbreak Station. But today we got one point more seriously the music genre that followed the Damn Yankees. With all due respect Allmusic commits a serious mistake to look so worldly and parochial techniques most of the bands that rock was in the early 90s. Just ask me time to gather material and prove what I say. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 187.85.150.89 (talk) 13:59, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

I can see your point, and I do admit they are borderline. If you do provide sufficient material, I'll be happy to change my opinion. I believe that they were hard rock above all, but that they were influenced by glam metal in their style, in particular regarding songs such as Mister Please, which shares quite a lot with glam. Another example could be their eponymous song. FateForger (talk) 17:50, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

I can see your point, and I do admit they are borderline. If you do provide sufficient material, I'll be happy to change my opinion. I believe that they were hard rock above all, but that they were influenced by glam metal in their style, in particular regarding songs such as Mister Please, which shares quite a lot with glam. Another example could be their eponymous song

FateForger just ask to examine me, forget allmusic. See the music school of all members. Ted had been trampled on that hard rock blues, he had speed, power and great melody, tried to sell their albums in the '80s that turned out badly, Damn Yankees was the chance to turn around and he would not miss. Tommy was the classic Styx a real art in terms of progressive rock, got some notice with his first solo album more for the Pop / Rock, the following years no longer like. Then we come to the event by Jack. That was part of a machine named Rock Night Ranger, the Group had a hard rock riffs with clean contemporary true but with the heart that soul seventies how to make a Rock N 'Roll without that glam trend that scares me ( Pretty Boy Floyd, Poison and other bands). Night Ranger and Survivor, REO Speedwagon, Kansas, Vandenberg, Journey began to lose ground just to the hair bands and like all preferred the lower positions of the billboard to adhere to the style. Michael currently holds a stick in the Lynyrd Skynyrd ie without delay ask that analysis carefully and with the heart of a fan of music that you know is not the coldness of a site that says expert. —Preceding unsigned comment added by MATHEUS HS (talk • contribs) 23:27, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

Well I know where the members came from. I'm sorry but I have some difficulties in understanding what you state in some sentences (for example the last one is not very clear). Again, I know they were hard rock more than anything else, and I know that their original groups are not glam metal. Still, this is not a valid point, as the member's music school does not necessarily determine a band's genre. On the contrary, Damn Yankees were exactly "the chance to turn around" as you mentioned it: the members set up a supergroup following the trend of those years, in order to sell records more easily. The result was a band still based on hard rock but with heavy pop/glam metal influences. Unfortunately for them, they arrived too late on the scene and the arena rock panorama was already in rapid decline. In fact, as soon as their second album failed to sell well, the group disbanded. As a great fan of hard rock and metal I try to be impartial in what I say, but this does not mean that I only follow websites without thinking. This is not just a matter of sources, but remember sources must be respected. On the whole Damn Yankees were hard rock, but the influence glam metal had on them is undeniable. FateForger (talk) 09:59, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, if I was not very clear with the last sentence. That sources must be respected and make the article more rich that I agree. What I'm trying to explain is that the sources that the article is based may be merely the opinion of other people like us better or worse that nobody knows. Within a product before any source should come to think of who writes or improvement. Another thing the school that the members can not come to define the genre sues following works, most surely serve as a preview of what to expect, including the reasons for venturing out or not in another way. And in the case of Damn Yankees this is very valid. And although the project was short, he spent far from being a failure. The two albums the band released reached the Billboard Top 30 in their given years in terms of a band for the more classic style of rock that is a win. Ted, Jack and Tommy were very well connected in the wings, and they knew that soon the dark wave Grunge / Alternative come and share. And a new shock with the goose that lays golden eggs for record labels would be a mistake. For today's more that I hope to continue our debate. —Preceding unsigned comment added by MATHEUS HS (talk • contribs) 23:03, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

Saying that sources are the opinion of other people like us is not a valid criteria. They are opinions of professional journalists, and even if we both know quite a lot about the genre we can't put our personal opinions on the same level. This is the whole point in reliable sources: Wikipedia is based on them to prevent endless discussions between users with different opinions. Therefore, the source should be taken into consideration. Since it is valid, it should be kept. It also explains what it states, so it is not a random source. There is no source, on the contrary, claiming that they knew about the grunge wave coming, and even if they did know about it they were still swept away. They were not classic rock but connected with glam, and they did not create the band thinking about grunge. Moreover, in 1990 record labels still signed a lot of glam metal bands, because the new trend was not as clear as it would become in a few years' time. I can provide examples. And they did disband because the second album did not do so well. There is reference for it. They were not a failure, but they did not last because of the decline of glam. In fact, as I have already said, though being hard rock they were strictly connected to glam and to the arena rock scene of those years. Summing up, there is proof they declined together with glam metal, there is a source which states they were glam and which explains the band's nature, and this source is professional, and therefore not simply an common opinion. I believe that hard rock should be kept as the primary genre, but that glam metal (and heavy metal) should be kept along with it. I will revert your last edit. Please provide a valid reason for them not being glam, a reason not based on personal opinions (which are not bad, but simply not better than my opinions or of other users' opinons), and not based on their music school (which can give a hint, but is not a a proof for a band's genre). FateForger (talk) 23:58, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

PROFESSIONAL? 'll have to excuse me friend but we are speaking of music, which brings us back to feelings, emotions. The science of the inexplicable. Not exactly something like politics or chemistry. I maintain my position and now the way you want through valid sources. These people do not have the right to appoint and declare that it is law. If you have any problems with the translation of the matter I help him. —Preceding unsigned comment added by MATHEUS HS (talk • contribs) 09:04, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Please stay calm. We are talking about music, but we are talking about it on Wikipedia. You are not taking this into consideration. If you want to talk about feelings and emotions, I'm sorry but this is the wrong place. Wikipedia is not about feelings. Read its policies. Coming to your source, I'm not sure it is reliable, but even if it is the most reliable source on the internet, it does not indicate that allmusic is unreliable. Therefore, allmusic remains a valid source and glam metal will be included as a genre. You have now been reverting lots of times, and still you have not provided a valid reason for removing glam metal from the genres. You should stop doing this, it has gone too far. Keep in mind you are already in a dispute regarding Giant. Either you show in a clear way they were NOT glam metal, or allmusic prevails since it is a source. FateForger (talk) 17:54, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

Understand one thing, fans of good old Rock N 'Roll are around the world. That his statement sounds like a bit homophobic, what? people with no ability to talk about music outside of America. Accessing the site of Allmusic, was reading excerpts from a mini biography of David Coverdale. Truly acloneRobert Plant, with its success in Pop Metal band on MTV. That leaves me shocked, first taking on tones of voice where the love of god there is some similarity, in the same band Whitesnake in their albums that have reached more sales or more marketability always remained above the Glam Metal, and even then the band since its inception until about the year 1984 was also a rock and the blues as a base with a classic line-up with Bernie Marsden and Mel Galley. I can be stubborn, annoying more then anything as offensive as this excerpt I keep growing firm in my beliefs —Preceding unsigned comment added by MATHEUS HS (talk • contribs) 21:32, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

You have passed the limit. You are already risking to be blocked. This is the umpteenth time you miss the point. Your reply is again difficult to understand and not written in proper English. But the important thing is: please stop editing without providing sources. This situation can't go on. You must understand that what you think is not relevant if it's not verifiable. You can grow firm in your beliefs as much as you want, but you will just end up getting blocked by edit warring. I am fed up of this endless discussion. I tried to be polite and to have a proper conversation, but you just don't seem to be listening. If you don't agree with what a reliable source states, you must reply with a source which is in clear contrast with it, your opinions don't matter. I hope this is the last time I have to explain this to you. FateForger (talk) 21:50, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Again, as above. Merely driving by the article as an IP and reverting the changes will not stand as an alternative to reliable sources and consensus, and will probably lead to this article being protected. Please continue this discussion, Matheus, and abide by consensus. Dayewalker (talk) 02:51, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

Minor Hits ?
Under history, referring to "Dont' Tread", it states "Although the second release was not as successful as the first album, it contained a few minor hits...". How are we defining "minor hits"? Seems like a biased word. The singles "Don't Tread", "Mister Please", and "Where You Goin' Now" were 3, 3, and 6 on the Mainstream Rock Tracks (see Don't Tread's wikipage). So, does a song have to be a 1 or a 2 to be a major hit? Most bands would kill to have a top 10 hit.

Therefore, removing the biased language. FiggazWithAttitude (talk) 18:48, 10 December 2018 (UTC)