Talk:Dan Henderson/Archive 1

Dan Henderson's fighting record
Dan Henderson lost his last fight at Bushido 10 by U.D,Misaki walked away with the victory. Check Sherdog.com for the correct ruling and more information on Henderson's fight at Bushido 10.

Not "Hollywood"
"Dangerous" Dan Henderson, is not Hollywood, at all. He is one of the kindest, silliest, guys you could meet; with such tremendous class that it would surprise most. The Team Quest organization has become highly recognized over the past year, or so, due to the success of Henderson, as well as some of his team mates, such as Matt Lindland and over-night power house sensation, Rameau Thierry Sokoudjou. Henderson's most recent gym with Team Quest, located in Murietta, California has become one of the most sought after training facilities in Mixed Martial Arts, and continues to turn out top notch fighters as it grows in popularity. Managed by Co-Owner, friend, and former USA Olympic Wrestler, Heath Sims, the facility caters to people of all ages and levels of expertise. In addition, Clinch Gear, an athletic clothing line now co-owned by Henderson, is proving to be yet another success for him. Highly personable and intelligent, Henderson demonstrates himself to be, not only a great fighter, but an excellent coach and businessman, as well. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Audreyfickle (talk • contribs) 02:15, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Not Welterweight Champ of PRIDE
He is not the current champ. I think he is the light heavy and middleweight champ of PRIDE Renny11

He is the middleweight and welterweight champ of PRIDE, PRIDE had no light heavyweight division. They called it the middleweight division, like the UFC used to. SuzukS 07:40, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Well the weights listed for weight classes are wrong... "Welterweight 183 lb (83 kg; 13.1 st) and Middleweight 205 lb (93 kg; 14.6 st) "

Welterweight is 140 pounds (63.5 kg), and middleweight is 160 pounds (72.64 kg). Not altogether sure where the weights listed have come from, other than if it is some special MMA weight class thing. If so it should be listed as such. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.170.10.166 (talk) 00:03, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Dan Henderson did not lose the PRIDE welterweight/middleweight titles
While his matches were to unify the UFC & PRIDE titles, he is still in possession of both belts. Therefore he didn't lose them. SuzukS 07:38, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
 * That doesn't make any sense at all. If the matches were unification bouts (which they both were), then whoever lost would lose their title. Henderson may still have physical possession of the actual belt itself, but that's completely irrelevant to whether he lost the title. The matches were announced as unifying the titles, and I remember at least Silva being announced as the undisputed champion after he beat Hendo. Unless you can find a source that identifies him as still the PRIDE champion in each weight class despite losing title unification matches, please stop removing that note from his record table. Gromlakh (talk) 15:54, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
 * His fight in the UFC was not a PRIDE fight. Pride was gone, so it could not change hands. However, if he won the UFC belt, it WOULD have unified the belts. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.160.197.103 (talk) 02:34, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
 * It was symbolic. I don't think we ever saw Rampage come in with a Pride belt to fight Forest Griffin. I would die to see a picture of that. Now take Paulo Filho mailing Sonnen his WEC belt cuz he didnt make weight. That is kinda like the exact opposite. Sonnen owns the belt but he is not the champ. Plus how can you really unify the Pride belt without it being Pride rules? — Preceding unsigned comment added by PortlandOregon97217 (talk • contribs) 23:54, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

Hendo?
I have always wondered, how did he get the nickname Hendo, and what does it mean? -- MMAJunkie250 (talk) 16:11, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Nothing really, just a play off of his last name. Henderson/Hendo, see? There is just an "o" instead of an "e". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.69.60.217 (talk) 20:33, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

The Shields Fight Description
Is it just me or does the description of the Shields fight seem a little bias. I think saying something like, "Despite hurting Shields and knocking him down in the 1st round, Henderson went on to lose by unanimous decision." would be good enough to describe the fight. IMO, the rest just seems to be there to down play Shields' performance.

Orphaned references in Dan Henderson
I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Dan Henderson's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "ufc.com": From James Wilks: http://www.ufc.com/JamesWilks From Michael Bisping: http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=news.detail&gid=5516 

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT ⚡ 17:02, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

Henderson's nickname
For many years Dan Henderson's unofficial, but widely used, nickname was "Decision." He was one of the original lay and pray artists, and his record showed this. How many different citations will I need so that the Henderson slobberers don't take down decision from his list of nicknames? If I provide 4-6 different sources it better not get taken back down. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Adam1134 (talk • contribs) 00:20, 4 May 2011 (UTC)


 * The number of citations isn't as important as the quality (see WP:V). Blogs, forums, and one journalist named Steve Cofield aren't good enough, so good luck finding one reliable source.   — LOL T/C 02:25, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

Brazil Open '97: Clarification Please
The article says this:

"In his first year of MMA competition, Henderson won the Brazil Open, a four-man heavyweight tournament."

But the career chart lists the Brazil Open matches as LIGHTWEIGHT. Heavyweight seems more credible (I don't believe Henderson has fought that light in his career). Nonetheless, I would appreciate some clarification on this matter. Jackbox1971 (talk) 04:51, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

Fedor fight
I changed the method to TKO (punches) from KO (punch) because TKO was the official ruling.

You can see it here: http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Dan-Henderson-195  — Preceding unsigned comment added by NinjaNerd8 (talk • contribs) 20:23, 20 October 2011 (UTC) Good job. Vandals Fedor haters keep coming in here and changing it back to KO. If anything the ruling should be NC (illegal strikes). I've been vigilantly checking this article regularly to make sure the record is right and Fedor's legacy is preserved — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.20.213.175 (talk) 18:50, 7 November 2011 (UTC) Splendid for the Fedor fan to vigialantly check this site in order to confirm his opinions, rather than the factual conclusion of the fight. I am pretty sure no one doubts the legacy of Fedor, including Dan Henderson. The official record, however, is how the referee and judges saw the fight, and Wikipedia should be a source of facts. Quite frankly, your opinion does not matter. People can watch the fight and form their own opinions. Hopefully, this will lead to posts on a standard blog, rather than here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.250.64.253 (talk) 10:12, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

Excuse me but the official outcomes are not decided by fan opinion. The commissions and officials make those decisions and as I posted, it has officially been ruled a TKO. Do not change it back. — Preceding unsigned comment added by NinjaNerd8 (talk • contribs) 05:15, 14 November 2011 (UTC) Hey guys. For the 4th time I find myself changing the win over Fedor to TKO (punches), the official correct ruling. I'm surprised to see discussion to this effect. People are vandalizing this page by constantly altering Henderson's record.

Edit request from, 16 November 2011
The information for the results of Henderson's fights are inaccurate. The match up against Rua hasn't happened yet but it reads as Rua having lost due to "anal rape". The editing for the fights' results following Rua's through Wanderlai Silva are also inaccurate. A good web page to reference for accurate results is www.sherdog.com. The appropriate results are as follows: Win Fedor Emelianenko TKO (punches) Win Rafael Cavalcante TKO (punches) Win Renatio Sobral KO (punches) Loss Jake Shields Decision (unanimous) Win Michael Bisping KO (punch) Win Rich Franklin Decision (split) Win Rousimar Palhares Decision (split) Loss Anderson Silva Submission (rear-naked choke) Loss Quinton Jackson Decision (unanimous) Win Wanderlai Silva KO (punches)

209.116.94.25 (talk) 19:12, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
 * This was a known problem due to a massive distributed vandalism attack to the article (dozens of people showed up to vandalize the article all at the same time), it was fixed at the same time as the protection was applied (check the article history tab). None of that vandalism is in this article anymore.  -- Jayron  32  20:45, 16 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Well, whoever it is that was changing the Fedor and Cavalcante fights from TKO's to KO's is still doing it, unfortunately. — Preceding unsigned comment added by NinjaNerd8 (talk • contribs) 03:27, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

Henderson Rua, fight of the night, fight of the Year
Under "Mixed martial arts record"

"Profesisonal Record Breakdown"

His last fight, against Mauricio Rua, should note that the fight was given the Fight of the Night award as well as Fight of the Year (2011)

Refeence of such, is found in: http://www.ufc.com/news/Ten-Best-2011-Fight-of-the-Year — Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.34.44.92 (talk) 18:58, 17 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Considering he works for the UFC I would say using the UFC as a source isn't ok. PortlandOregon97217 (talk) 05:51, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

Number 3, not 7
The ranking from MMA weekly is cited from 2011; on the very link provided it shows him more recently at #3. Can't edit this myself, though, just alerting anyone who can. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Phruizler (talk • contribs) 06:10, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
 * ✅ It's been updated. --TreyGeek (talk) 06:21, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

Fight of the Night, Fight of the Year. Rated #1 UFC fight all time.
Who ranks these fights? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.189.39.87 (talk) 17:50, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

UFC.com, Wrestling Observer newsletter, Dana White himself in interviews — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rissx (talk • contribs) 16:02, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

Henderson Knocked out Fedor
There are multiple sources indicating it. Plus Herb Dean himself said in the interview that Fedor was unconscious. PortlandOregon97217 (talk) 20:35, 6 December 2012 (UTC)


 * No, you are incorrect. Cite these sources if you have them. The reality is that they don't exist. The official ruling was TKO, not KO. You can see it linked a few sections above in the official fight record by NinjaNerd. - Eidetic Man (talk) 17:04, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

vs. Belfort II
Please stop changing the method from KO to TKO.

By the unified rules and regulations of mixed martial arts, the fight is deemed a KO and not a TKO when the fighter is rendered unconscious. Henderson's body was clearly limp as the head kick landed and he fell to the canvas, unconscious. The official ruling is seen in the three links below citing the official event on the UFC website, the official Sherdog event and the unified rules of Mixed Martial Arts, respectively.

-http://www.ufc.com/event/ufn-belfort-henderson -http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Dan-Henderson-195 -http://www.ufc.com/discover/sport/rules-and-regulations

The official ruling as announced in the "official decision" after the fight, during the broadcast (sanctioned by the athletic commission) was "knockout" and not "technical knockout."

Eidetic Man (talk) 16:42, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

Edit request, 14 November 2013
His new nickname is Dan Hendo gets knocked out Henderson This nickname has been spreading around the mma world since his last fight where he got knocked out

138.51.159.102 (talk) 03:43, 14 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: even if you had provided a source, I would have declined this one. That's not a nickname, just a way to diss him. --Stfg (talk) 13:52, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Missing quote
The last paragraph of "Coaching Ultimate Fighter and Aftermath" says the following:
 * After UFC president Dana White said Henderson had made those comments in jest, Henderson clarified stating..."

The problem is there are no comments provided that are to be clarified. I assume a (controversial?) statement has been removed at some stage. But now the paragraph does not make sense. AtHomeIn神戸 (talk) 14:23, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
 * I have found the relevant quote in the reference and added the most pertinent part. AtHomeIn神戸 (talk) 13:21, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

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What happened to the Boetsch fight in his record table?
It's not there — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.174.50.182 (talk) 00:40, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

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lede
Trimmed this recent addition from the lede

"Considered among one of the greatest mixed martial arts of all time defeated 13 MMA Champions across four promotions (RINGS, Pride FC, UFC, Strikeforce)."

While I might agree in part it needs rewriting and maybe a citation or at least a more in-depth part in the article body supporting this statement. Any thoughts?Yojimbo1941 (talk) 18:54, 9 December 2016 (UTC)