Talk:Dan McCarney

Baseball program
Can anyone confirm that ISU canceled their baseball program to free up the money to give McCarney a contract extension? I recall this being in the sports media back around 2003 or so. Larry Eustachy might have been a beneficiary as well. At any rate, I think that's a noteworthy detail, but I can't source it. CHeers, --PhilipR 01:38, 24 November 2006 (UTC)


 * I participated with the ISU swimming club during 2001. Also, I attended the last baseball game at ISU while ISU was a sanctioned NCAA division I program.  The last ISU baseball game was between Nebraska and ISU in May, 2001.


 * After May, 2001, both the baseball and men's swimming programs at ISU could not offer scholarships. Both the baseball and men's swimming programs became clubs because of Title IX limits placed on the number of scholarships offered.  In order to provide an equal access to athletic scholarships for men and women, as well as minorities, the number of scholarships offered to men at ISU had to be reduced to a roughly equivalent level as the number of scholarships offered to women and minorities at ISU.


 * The hockey and rugby programs at ISU have been successful clubs for several years.


 * The ISU football and wrestling program offers a large number of scholarships to men. If ISU had kept offering scholarships to the baseball and men's swimming programs, then some other program, such as wrestling or possibly football, would have to cut the number of scholarships offered.  Because of the strong ISU wrestling traditions and the large revenue that the ISU football program generates, cutting scholarships offered for the ISU wrestling and football programs was unthinkable in 2001.


 * Title IX is instituted to provide an equal access to athletic scholarships between men and women as well as minorities.
 * http://www.ncaa.org/wps/ncaa?ContentID=1488


 * Phil, to answer your question, "Can anyone confirm that ISU canceled their baseball program to free up the money to give McCarney a contract extension?"


 * No.


 * The issue surfaced in 2001, not 2003 as you incorrectly remembered. The ISU baseball program ceased being a sanctioned NCAA division I program because of Title IX.  Freeing up money for contract extensions was not an issue.


 * References
 * *"Iowa State Discontinues Men's Swimming" Iowa State Press Release
 * http://www.usadiver.com/news/iowa_state_mens_swim_04_01.htm


 * --72.253.70.129 (talk) 02:30, 23 February 2009 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.253.70.129 (talk • contribs)


 * I've mildly reformatted the (two) signed contribs above. And apparently the IP editor didn't mean to create the appearance of claiming to have both a press release and an independent Web site as sources. They may also have considered our boilerplate "References" heading a sensible style on this page. What they in fact have is a self-insinuatedly national swimming org's Web site's claim to be republishing the press-release in the form that the org somehow received or found it in. And a presumed attempt to communicate what we might well communicate by this markup:
 * Iowa State Discontinues Men's Swimming -- Iowa State Press Release [on third-party Web site]
 * specifically, [usadiver.com the USAdiver.com Website] site displays links to its archive (only) for 5 months in 2007, copyright date "2000-2002", and "updated" record for February 12, 2013. Perhaps it was a reliable source in 2009, but IMO it was then already no longer entitled to be presumed so. Nor, IMO, is a self-serving press release ever a reliable source for an organization's true intentions. (And hopefully i'm just gilding the lily in saying that of course neither are otherwise unpublished individual recollections.)   Of course, this may well serve as a clue about one direction we should explore in. --Jerzy•t 02:01, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
 * --Jerzy•t 02:01, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

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