Talk:Dandy (video game)

Box cover?
Maury, there does seem sort of a box cover, here -- actually looks like the game was packaged in a plastic clamshell with the manual cover on top (three-hole punches, sort of a giveaway). Does that count as a box cover? Found it in the comments section here.


 * Oh geez, yeah I should have remembered that. Originally all of the APX stuff came in a zip-lock with a single printed card in front, but then they got a little fancier towards the end. That said, the graphics are pretty basic, I'm not sure it would really add anything that a screen snap wouldn't. Not like the Synapse stuff, which always had cool cover graphics. Maury 18:57, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Incorrect use of the word "language"
Removed a refrence to the "performance" of a language. Languages don't have a performance, implmentations have a performance. Subtle, I know, but still wrong. From E.W. Dijkstra:

In Departments of Computing Science, one of the most common confusions is the one between a program and its execution, between a programming language and its implementation. I always find this very amazing: the whole vocabulary to make the distinction is generally available, and also, the very similar confusion between and computer and its order code, remarkably enough, is quite rare. But it is a deep confusion of long standing. One of the oldest examples is presented by the LISP 1.5 Manual: halfway their description of the programming language LISP, its authors give up and from then onwards try to complement their incomplete language definition by an equally incomplete sketch of a specific implementation. Needless to say, I have not been able to learn LISP from that booklet! I would not worry, if the confusion were restricted to old documents, but, regretfully enough, the confusion is still very popular. At an international summer school in 1973, a very well-known professor of Computing Science made the statement that "ALGOL 60 was a very inefficient language", while what he really meant was that with the equipment available to him, he and his people had not been able to implement ALGOL 60 efficiently. (That is what he meant, he did not mean to say it!) Another fairly well-known professor of computing science has repeatedly argued in public that there is no point in proving the correctness of one's programs written in a higher-level language "because, how do you know that its compiler is correct?". In the motivation of a recent research proposal doubt is case upon the adequacy of "the axiomatic semantics approach" as it may lead to deductive systems that are "undesirable in that they may not accurately reflect the actual executions of programs". It is like casting doubt on Peano's Axiomatization of the Natural Numbers on the ground that some people make mistakes when they try to do an addition!

http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/EWD/transcriptions/EWD04xx/EWD447.html

The "port"
I have removed most of the information about the port from the infobox. I've talked to John, and the UK game was a Gauntlet clone, not Dandy. So similar, but not the same. Maury 20:19, 31 July 2007 (UTC)


 * It was a very similar game with the exact same title and Electric Dreams licenced it. I would call that an official port even if the original author feels it is significantly different to his version. There are many video game articles listing different versions of the same game together (the Atari 2600 versions of most games bore little resemblance to more advanced ones... the entirely different mazes in Crystal Castles for example). I see what you are saying though, and the main article does refer to the original Atari game but the article should also hold information for people who want information on the Electric Dreams versions. A seperate article would be entirely inappropriate but maybe there should be 2 infoboxes (eg see Lunar Lander). Since the Electric Dreams version was actually probably the most widely used, it probably deserves more than a footnote (although obviously it isn't actually as important as the original which 'influenced' the massive hit Gauntlet). Retro junkie 22:08, 31 July 2007 (UTC)


 * There's a little more to it than that though, as the company in question was sued by Atari. I don't dispute that the game in question deserves a mention here (and it still is), but I don't think it deserves the title "port". Perhaps more data, and as you say, perhaps a second userbox, but just as perhaps a second article? Maury 23:20, 31 July 2007 (UTC)


 * I've removed the claim that Atari sued Electric Dreams over Dandy as the given citation didn't even mention the Electric Dreams version. Furthermore, I can find no mention of this from any of the relevant magazines from the time. Various websites that have claimed this all appear to have got their information from this article. If anyone can provide an actual source to support it then feel free to add it back in. MrMajors (talk) 10:33, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

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 * Can someone fix this thing? The article IS properly tagged. Maury 12:15, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

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