Talk:Daniel R. Gernatt Sr.

Created article
I created this article today. Please add to and improve it. Daniellagreen (talk) 01:18, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

Drive-by tagging
I have removed 2 useless tags, 1. peacock, because I don't see even a single peacock term. 2. essay, because not even a single sentence has been written like essay.  Occult Zone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 02:43, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

Merge
The Daniel and Flavia Gernatt Family Foundation article was nominated by another editor for deletion on July 10, 2014. A consensus decided that the article should be merged into Daniel R. Gernatt, Sr., and the debate was closed on July 20, 2014. The article was merged into the Daniel and Flavia Gernatt Family Foundation section of the Daniel R. Gernatt, Sr. article on July 21, 2014. Please maintain the section header as written so that it successfully redirects to that location. Daniellagreen (talk) (cont)  18:05, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

Another Merge
The Gernatt Family of Companies article was nominated for deletion by another editor on October 24, 2014, and it was decided that the article should be redirected and merged here, to the Daniel R. Gernatt, Sr. article. The debate is now closed, and I have made the merge and redirect with some clean-up. Further clean-up of references, including removing likely duplicate references is needed. I will return to do that throughout the next few weeks, though I do not have a large block of time to accomplish that at the moment. Note that if this article is nominated for deletion, it will likely redirect to the Flavia C. Gernatt article, so I hope that puts to rest certain other editors' desires regarding deleting this article. These articles have met Wikipedia's notability requirements and the debate about deleting them needs to stop. Daniellagreen (talk) (cont)  18:22, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Also, the main header for this section should be maintained "as is" for appropriate redirection. Please do not delete it, or the article will not be properly redirected.  Daniellagreen (talk)  (cont)  19:42, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

Cease Unnecessary Deletes
To the editor(s) who continue to unnecessarily delete information from this article, information is being deleted that supports the notability of the companies and as it relates to Daniel R. Gernatt, Sr. as Chairman of the Board of the companies. These companies are notable, as reflected by notability being more than established and more than meeting Wikipedia's requirements, based on being described at length in two professional journals and two newspapers, including those in Buffalo, NY and Washington, DC. The editor who is fixated on deleting information about these companies has gone far overboard and such actions are unnecessary, ultimately providing only selective information and not being productive to the Wikipedia project. Editors who simply believe the companies are not notable should really do their research and find for themselves that the companies are notable, as has been established by the professional journals, The Urban Lawyer and St. John's Law Review, as well as in the Buffalo News and McClatchy - Tribune Business News. The Gernatt Family of Companies article was reviewed for notability at the time of publication one year ago, but due to a consensus of editors who were against the article - and it's established notability - Wikipedia's guidelines for notability were not followed, nor adhered to in this situation, as well as in regard to three other related articles to members of the Gernatt Family and/or their enterprises, which were also notable, having met Wikipedia's guidelines for notability. Any continuation of deletions on this article and in relation to these companies and/or family members appear to be solely political moves based on certain editors' personal positions and perspectives against them. If it was up to the sole decision of a few editors, the entire article about the companies would have been deleted, and that appears to continue to be the ultimate goal of one particular editor, whose deletions I have reverted. These actions should be ceased, but continue to occur. Daniellagreen (talk) (cont)  01:54, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
 * The deletions are, as noted in the edit summaries, an attempt to begin to trim some of the overwhelming amount of trivial, non-notable, irrelevant, and promotional material in the article, particularly in the Companies section, per WP:UNDUE, and also removal of inappropriate and/or redundant material, and material not about Daniel R. Gernatt Sr. Please note that if you continue to revert the deletions, you will be engaging in edit warring, for which you can be blocked. Softlavender (talk) 02:43, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
 * This is your opinion, and as for edit warring, I was not born yesterday. If you revert, it would be you who is edit warring. If so much information had not been deleted from these articles, they would actually be very informative, accurate, and thorough. Because so much information has been now been deleted, these articles are unreliable.  Thanks alot everyone!  <b style="color:#7F007F">Daniellagreen</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk)  <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  02:40, 9 November 2014 (UTC)

References Removed by Other Editors
Regarding the two current "citation needed" indications on the article about the number of horses owned and many of their names being "Collins," those are referenced in The Buffalo News. Those were cites that I had previously added, but which have been removed, along with much other information and references, by other editors. If someone could kindly re-add those sources, I will appreciate it since, whenever I re-add them, particular editors continue to delete them, and it is not worth it to me to participate in their conflict and edit-warring. Thanks, <b style="color:#7F007F">Daniellagreen</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  01:44, 7 December 2014 (UTC)


 * ✅, with a viewable citation. Softlavender (talk) 02:12, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

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