Talk:Daniel Schorr

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If we are going to (reasonably enough) place him in Category:Watergate figures, shouldn't the article at least mention his role in covering Watergate? -- Jmabel 06:28, Oct 5, 2004 (UTC)

I find this article rather thin on Schorr's achievements, and that it leans heavily toward discrediting Schorr for reported unethical actions, some of which lack citations. Citations and more balance needed! Jsallen1 (talk) 15:28, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

Perhaps. And perhaps not?
"Perhaps earning the envy of journalists half his age"

Weaselly (WP:WEASEL). If we're going to say this (and I don't like it, personally), IMHO needs a cite. -- Writtenonsand 04:51, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Some changes and questions
From the section "The 70s": "Schorr attracted the anger of the Nixon White House."

How?

From further down that section: "Famously, Schorr read the list aloud on live TV, surprised to be reading his own name in that context. Schorr won Emmys for news reporting in 1972, 1973, and 1974."

Did he read that entire list (many names) or the "Nixon Enemies List (20 names)?

From "Career as an Elder Statesman of Journalism": "After Nixon's resignation, Schorr attracted controversy when he received and published the leaked Pike Commission's report about illegal CIA and FBI activities in 1976."

The report is not about illegal CIA and FBI activities taking place in 1976. I've disambiguated it.

At the end of that section: "A graduate of City College of New York in the 1930s, Schorr's journalism is tinged with a pessimism and sceptical edge of the person or event he is chronicling."

This is tinged with POV -- and it's not very clear. I took it out. --Chris 04:48, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Now you see him; now you don't
CPWinter, you added a photo of Schorr and Scott Simon. Soon thereafter, you deleted it. Why? Was it a copyvio? I'd like to have a good PD photo of the dude on this page.--RattBoy 21:07, 14 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Yes, it was a copyvio. I'll contact the source (a subscription-based print magazine) and ask for permission to use it here. --ChrisWinter 18:00, 16 July 2006 (UTC)


 * OK, I've gotten informal permission. I just need to make sure the owner understands the ramifications of licensing it under (probably) CC-ND and is willing to do that. Awaiting reply to followup message. --ChrisWinter 19:41, 17 July 2006 (UTC)


 * I've waited about 10 days for that second reply. I'll trust that the original permission was enough. (Here's how I worded it in the caption: "photo: Geneva Collins, Copyright &copy; 2001 Current Publishing Committee. Reproduced by permission.") I've just put back the image link. I'll give Current a heads-up; then if they want to complain, they can. --ChrisWinter 14:29, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

I like the photo, but there's no mention of his radio work with Scott Simon in the article. Could someone add that? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.73.31.50 (talk) 17:58, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

Buddy, Can You Spare a Dime?
On or about July 6 to 13, 2008, Mr. Schorr sang this 1932 song (about long term unemployed workers) on NPR Morning Edition. That sound clip should be added--it's an important piece of his life witness. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.130.32.67 (talk) 18:15, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
 * What was so significant about it? Niteshift36 (talk) 17:50, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
 * So, sorry to chime in here with a stream of consciousness :) but I think I'm additive. They played the clip again this morning on NPR ATC. I'm not "making the case" that it's significant, but what they did say is that he had an interest in music and worked/wanted to work (can't remember) as a music critic which is not the same as performing so I don't think it makes the case. BTW, also on public radio a few days ago they played a clip of Schorr singing "it ain't necessarily so" on stage with Frank Zappa. Having heard both clips, he was not a singer. The other point about "brother can you spare a dime" that Schorr made was he "could remember every word" which since it is a song about somebody economically down and out I think is more a comment on political sensibility, very New Deal is how I took it. One final thing to add having mentioned music criticism as a career, this article is remarkably quiet about what he did do in his younger years. The article picks up when he is close to 40, what did he do before that? 71.190.72.55 (talk) 17:04, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
 * ah, nevermind on the career question, here it is from : "Schorr's 20-year career as a foreign correspondent began in 1946. After serving in U.S. Army intelligence during World War II, he began writing from Western Europe for the Christian Science Monitor and later The New York Times, witnessing postwar reconstruction, the Marshall Plan and the creation of the NATO alliance." 71.190.72.55 (talk) 17:22, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
 * A couple of sources mentioned, in passing, that he sang the song. But nothing indicates it was significant to his life. This is a bio, not a eulogy. I can't see any significant reason for including what is little more than trivia. Niteshift36 (talk) 00:46, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Politics
Any idea of Schorr's political leanings? We might conclude from his antagonistic behavior towards Goldwater and Nixon that he was left-leaning/liberal, but did he ever mention his political views in print or interviews?—Loadmaster (talk) 18:49, 24 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Schorr was at the left edge of acceptable during his CBS career. His reporting was noticeably sympathetic to labor unions, social welfare programs, income transfer payments, relatively disinterested in opposing points of view, and tended to portray those who advocated opposing points of view unfavorably. The old expression for biased reportage was "yellow journalism" and his reporting that aired is more aptly summarized as keeping one toe over over the line than toeing the line.
 * That's may still be a little too generous. In the '70's Schorr had a noticeably heavy-handed poisonous attitude toward anything that didn't hasten the day the 'worker's paradise' would come to America and a habit of being something of an apologist for the communist block. IIRC after the fall of the Soviet Union Schorr appeared on the list of foreigners on the KGB's payroll when their archives were opened. The KGB wasn't committed to the truth internally or to outsiders so it would be a mistake to accept who their archives claimed to be paying at face value, but rather that it shows that his point of view made claiming him as an asset credible. His unflagging commitment to the cause after the end of the Soviet era argues that he came by his socialist convictions honestly. PolychromePlatypus (talk) 20:02, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

end of his CBS career
As I recall, the scandal that forced him to resign from CBS was that they felt he had not told them (his bosses) the truth or honored commitments. (it's absurd to even hint that CBS in the 70s was afraid to defend the 1st amendment or wanted to cover for the government) Note that he leaked the Pike report to the Village Voice; he did not work for the Village Voice, he worked for the news division of CBS. IIRC (don't remember) that they knew he had the report, had discussed it, and Schorr was unhappy that they were not going to press with it so he went/snuck outside. 71.190.72.55 (talk) 17:14, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
 * my recollection above is still the same, but researching I found this from Time : "Worse, for several hours last Feb. 11, Schorr let his bosses believe that fellow correspondent Lesley Stahl leaked the Pike report. Some of the people Schorr worked with in the CBS Washington bureau have never forgiven him. Said a correspondent: "It's one thing to deceive management. It's another thing to shit on your colleagues." 71.190.72.55 (talk) 19:13, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Promotion of book at the Woman's National Democratic Club
Isn't the promotion of a book at a partisan venue noteworthy for a journalist at NPR? Drrll (talk) 01:17, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
 * No. Bongo  matic  02:37, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Book tours are a part of publishing. I expect that the subject visited as many venues as his health, budget, and time allowed. I don't see many book tour appearances in journalist bios. They're just not notable.   Will Beback    talk    09:11, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

Personal life?
I gather that his survivors include a wife and two (adult) children. I hope someone can flesh out this bio with some details about Schorr's non-professional life. 24.128.188.152 (talk) 05:45, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

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