Talk:Daniel Somers

Please pause
edit: My request for a pause no longer applies. This article is the subject of a discussion for deletion. I have asked in that discussion that editors please allow me to expand this article. I am making many major revisions. I am undoing revisions posted a short while ago by another editor, the content of which I will restore in a different format. I do not own this article, and I cannot demand that you not edit. I would like to ask for time though.

Angel is the name given in every source I have read. If her name is Angeline, can I ask where that came from?
 * Ok, I see in one reference she is called Angeline in a photo caption. I am absolutely BAFFLED about where the idea of two children came from. I added it in my first edit, but clearly it is wrong, and not from any of the cits.Dcs002 (talk) 07:13, 27 July 2014 (UTC)

Please note: I am adding a reference to the CNN anchor crying story because it shows that the event and its aftermath were still significant and newsworthy, adding to historical notability. All I want to do with that is establish that this story was getting major network coverage still a year after the event. I do have other sources though. Any better ideas? Dcs002 (talk) 05:33, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Bananagramwinner, I did not undo your revisions, but I did overwrite them. They are safe in the article's history. Again, I will restore the content soon, if not the wording. And thank you for contributing to an article that needs help! (I really do mean that!) Dcs002 (talk) 05:38, 27 July 2014 (UTC)

Also please note: The CNN interview related the Daniel Somers event to the major Veterans Health Administration scandal of 2014 event. That interview, IMO, needs to be cited in this article. Internal linking between the articles will strengthen both I think. Dcs002 (talk) 05:46, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Grr! Sorry for all these wishy-washy posts, but I just want the rationale for my edits here to be transparent. I can't stomach the crying anchor thing. If I can't, I can't expect anyone else to be ok with it. it's gone. Dcs002 (talk) 05:52, 27 July 2014 (UTC)

ADHD as a child
I think it is relevant that he had ADHD as a child because it is an important piece of evidence that he was a familiar consumer of mental health services since childhood, as the source states. That supports the idea that he was not as likely to be afraid as others might be to ask for help, or as reluctant to do his part as a mental health patient. It was the other side of the equation that messed that up - getting the help once he sought it out. You really should read the source article. It spells it out.

I have to say, "i think that this is irrelevant." is not justification to cut something. Your opinion, like mine, doesn't matter when editing an encyclopedia. Sources, evidence, facts - that's what we need. If it really comes down to judgement, we need to discuss it and build a consensus. Do you have a justification for your opinion? An example of something like this winding up bad, or another reliable source suggesting it's a bad idea? I won't try to put the content back on my own. After six hours of studying this topic and editing the article, I'm not sure I'm exactly unbiased ATM. Again, thank you for contributing! Dcs002 (talk) 07:30, 27 July 2014 (UTC)

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