Talk:Darayya massacre

Reports
There are very contradictory reports about those events. UN said that there need independent investigation, so international community didn't give opinion what happened and who did it.--Vojvodae please be free to write :) 20:27, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

There is a Lebanese article from one of the victims that supports the Fisk version of events. http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Middle-East/2012/Sep-02/186418-lebanese-learn-of-mothers-slaying-in-syria-on-tv.ashx#axzz25DdjarbE

I'm not an user and I don't have the proper knowledge of editing the article. Can someone more experienced have a go? 78.147.51.177 (talk) 10:46, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

Fisk's report
First of all let's all not forget that Fisk is a highly respected journalist and a winner of several awards including: Jacob's Award, Amnesty International UK Press Award, British Press Award, International Journalist of the Year, "Reporter of the Year", David Watt prize, Lannan Cultural Freedom Prize. Al-Ahrams claim that "Robert Fisk is indoctrinated by Syrian regime" is attributed to a former prisoner in Syrian jails who seems enraged at Fisk's interview of several Syrian and foreign Jihadists. It is well known that Syria is becoming a stairway to heaven for Jihadists, it shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone that some ended up in Syrian jails during their journey towards heavenly delights through Syria.

Now Lebanon is an opinion portal (i.e. blog) with a mission to "recapture the spirit of that unique day in 2005 and channel it towards positive change in Lebanon". For those puzzled by this statement, this blog is maintained by March 14 alliance activists who took part in the anti-Syrian Cedar Revolution. According to our WP:NEWSORG policy such websites have zero reliability.--  R a f y  talk 19:39, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

Agree with Rafy. EkoGraf (talk) 21:31, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

Now Lebanon is useful because they are generally the first source which translate full AFP reports in English. But outside of that, their personnal comments and editorials are of average quality.

Anyway, dismissing the report of a well known journalist like Fisk under the pretext that he is an "Assad supporter" is laughable. --DanielUmel (talk) 21:32, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

Since when did Robert Fisk become more reliable than Human Rights Watch? I see you also deleted the Al Ahram and Forien policy references. I7laseral (talk) 22:14, 9 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Can't find anything regarding Daraya in HRW's website, so far this has been media claims.
 * Al Ahram shows the opinion of a Syrian dissident of Fisk, one can also cite sources on media bias against Assad, which all has no value to this article's subject.
 * Can't see anything about Fisk on Foreign policy's article, the user probably hoped that no one notices his manipulation of references.--  R a f y  talk 08:25, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment - this is from the independent - "According to Human Rights Watch (HRW), which has interviewed Daraya residents and analysed satellite images of the battle, evidence points towards government responsibility for the killings, although it is not clear whether uniformed men or the shabiha militia carried out the killings after the town was bombed by helicopters and shelled.

"What we don't know yet is who did the dirty work, the executions – whether it was men in uniform or shabiha," says HRW's Ole Solvang. "We're still investigating." - for rafy to say then thats its just media caims when Ole Solvang says they are not clear only which part of the regime forces carried out the massacre - is wrongheaded and thoroughly disingenuous imo. Sayerslle (talk) 23:52, 10 September 2012 (UTC)


 * "the state television said it was the ‘Free Army’", "The home of Amer Sheikh Rajab, a fork-lift truck driver, had been taken over, he said, by gunmen as a base for ‘Free Army’ forces". Accusations of the FSA are pretty clear here, so I7laseral please undo your latest revert .--  R a f y  talk 11:49, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

Fisk's credibility has been questioned and repeatedly so. He's a 911 conspiracy theorist (although of course he denies the term).--Brian Dell (talk) 04:06, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

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