Talk:Dark Assembly

Congress?
Disgaea: Hour of Darkness says Dark Assembly. Where are the references to a Congress? Arasaka 00:59, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
 * You're right. The FAQs for the Japanese versions of the game translated it as Dark Congress, but the game calls it the Dark Assembly. Fixed. Kickaha Ota 01:25, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Notability
Someone recently redirected the Dark Assembly article to the page for the first Disgaea game. I've reverted for the following reasons:
 * When an article is actively being edited, major changes should be discussed. When someone has edited the article less than ten minutes before you decide to redirect it, well, that should be discussed. :)
 * The Dark Assembly is a major game mechanic in both Disgaea games, probably the most important location there is.
 * The article contains a substantial amount of material that doesn't exist in either of the main Disgaea game articles. So eve if we decide that the Dark Assembly doesn't justify its own article, we should merge the appropriate material into the main game articles before reverting the old article away.


 * A single part of a game doesn't need its own article. The way it's desciribed is too detailed for an encyclopedic entry. The article is too much like a game guide. The single paragraph in the Disgaea article describes it just fine without adding any pointless information. Nemu 01:33, 10 September 2006 (UTC)


 * "A single part of a game doesn't need its own article"? There are oodles of game articles split up into multiple parts -- lists of locations, equipment, etc. Have you visited the Final Fantasy articles lately? :) "The way it's described is too detailed for an encyclopedic entry"? It's barely a screen's worth of text.  "The article is too much like a game guide"?  It doesn't give any numbers, any lists, or any strategy advice (unless you count 'a player might have to do this at some point' as strategy advice); by that standard, it seems like any article about a game that discussed the game in any more detail than "This is a game where you run around and kill things" would be a game guide. Wikipedia is not a strategy guide, but it's also not a completely abstract entity; some details about the topic being discussed are allowed and, on occasion, even encouraged. :)  "The single paragraph in the Disgaea article describes it just fine without adding any pointless information"? That's certainly a valid viewpoint, but it's the sort of difference in viewpoint that needs to be worked out through cooperation and consensus.  When your first interaction with an article is to effectively delete it and say "This isn't notable", without prior discussion and without giving your other reasons until you're called on it, that doesn't exactly create an environment for collaboration and consensus. Kickaha Ota 01:55, 10 September 2006 (UTC)


 * The thing with the Final Fantasy articles is that they're describing them more than just an in game function. The game guide thing is about the fact that all the article does is describe how it is in the game. It's just a trivial article about something that would come out of the manual. Nemu 02:06, 10 September 2006 (UTC)


 * The Dark Assembly is more than "an in game function". It is not comparable to a minigame (say the card games of Final Fantasy), it is much more important. It's where you get your characters from! (Anyone who has played the game will know this. Have you?) The assembly is described in just about the same number of words as the booklet, with some insertion from the game help. On the other hand, in my idea, an article should be made for anything which could potentially looked up for its own sake. I'm not sure if the Dark Assembly would fit my criteria... But I agree with Kickaha Ota, deletion should at the very least be discussed. Arasaka 13:52, 10 September 2006 (UTC)


 * It wasn't deletion. It was a redirect. It falls under the bold edit thing the site has. But anyways, to have an article, the subject has to have some revilvance past the game. In it's current state the article is nothing more than a game guide on how to use a function in the game that could basically come from the manual. I don't see any room for the article to become any bit encyclopedic. It's just pointless to keep around and should be redirected. Nemu 14:56, 10 September 2006 (UTC)