Talk:Darkhad dialect

Rename?
Shouldn't the lemma be called Darkhad (with d instead of t)? Yaan 15:51, 16 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Possibly. Do we have Mongolian language sources to confirm the correct transcription? --Latebird 14:50, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

chris kaplonski's website has a list and also links to a map. For some reason his URL seems to be blacklisted (WTF?). It's www dot chriskaplonski dot com -> Mongolia -> ethnic groups or so. Yaan 07:49, 18 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Yes, kaplonski is usually quite reliable. Maybe he was overused... In that case I can fully support the rename. --Latebird 09:55, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Related languages
I'm sure there are more significant related languages than Kalmyk and Buryat, e.g. Khalkha Mongolian. Can someone with a better grasp of linguistics confirm this?


 * ALL Mongolic languages are related to each other. The relevant question in this article should be not a laundry list of Mongolic languages, but only the most closely related ones--Kalmyk-Oirat.  A reference to the Mongolic languages article should suffice for a more complete listing.  (Taivo (talk) 15:10, 20 March 2008 (UTC))

Classification
According to Svantesson, Tsendina, Karlsson and Franzén 2005: 226, there are just four publications concerning the phonology of Darhad (three essays, one book). This is probably all there is on any properties of Darhad. Maximally one of these publications can be accessed from German libraries, and the same or worse is likely to hold for the UK and the US. From these publications, Svantesson et al. conclude that Darhad is a dialect of Khalkha with some slight Oirat features. Then, I'm not aware of any evaluative studies that attribute a privileged position to Darhad. So how the hell did the Ethnologue classification come about? (And why does anybody suppose that it can be trusted?) G Purevdorj (talk) 23:17, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Renaming
Now that the content is changed, the article should maybe be renamed. "Darkhad dialect" or the like. What's the convention for articles on dialects? Or does any regiolect retain the label "language" in the article name? G Purevdorj (talk) 00:58, 6 October 2008 (UTC)


 * I went to Category:Languages of Germany for comparison, and found Masurian dialect, among others. There are similar examples elsewhere, so I think renaming to Darkhad dialect should be fine. There are relatively few dialect articles around overall, but that is probable because they weren't considered significant enough to write about, or are already explained in the articles about the respective parent languages. --Latebird (talk) 09:03, 6 October 2008 (UTC)