Talk:Darl McBride/Archives/2015

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I removed the following comment from the main page -- llywrch 17:43 19 Jun 2003 (UTC)


 * Demonised by geeks in 2003 when SCO with Darl at the helm sued IBM over IP issues with regard to Linux, AIX and Unix...

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I removed the comment "So Gates still retains top honors at the most hated man in the industry." It's a bit controversial and pretty much irrelevant anyways. I also changed "Bill Gates has funded" to "Microsoft has funded", as Gates himself hasn't funded anything and coupled with the other comment I removed it seemed to just be an attack on Billy.

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This is a bit biased, no? Somebody should edit this article to make sure it's purely factual.
 * I've been keeping an eye on it. All but the last sentence are factual and fairly easy to verify, but you're right, the tone leaves something to be desired. As for that last sentence, I don't know that a smoking gun was ever found pointing at Microsoft, and the attacks on Linux are being done by SCO, not by McBride personally, although he has definitely kept a very high profile. Pulling the Gates comment helped a lot; unless someone can point out a news article verifying the Microsoft connection--and it really ought to be something other than Microsoft convincing Baystar to invest--then I think that last sentence needs to go. It would be nice to balance the article by pointing out some of McBride's achievements, if anyone can find any. I'm not saying that out of dislike for the guy, I'm saying it because there isn't a lot of information about him out there, aside from what's here. --Dave Farquhar 06:36, 1 Dec 2004 (UTC)


 * Rather just pulling the investment sentence, it might be better to very briefly mention the Baystar connection. As it stands it's certainly inaccurate though, so if nothing better can replace it, then pull it.  --Ian 14:40, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)

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I removed the comment "It has since been learned that, in fact, Microsoft has funded McBride in the attacks on Linux." Although many of us believe that this is in fact true, it can not be proven beyond a doubt.

$1.14 Severance fee?
The article says that McBride's severance fee was $1.14. Should this be $1.14 M? Riordanmr 02:26, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

yes, obviously. why don't people just fix obvious errors instead of talking them??

linux = communism?
Quoting http://news.com.com/2010-7344-5083904.html

One of my peers in Novell was Darl McBride, who today leads SCO as its CEO...Today, McBride is leading a charge against Linux based on three allegations: ... 3 The open-source movement is a communist affront to capitalism and should not be allowed to interfere in the profitable business of proprietary software. He thereby implies that it is un-American to support the open-source movement.

I would find it interesting to find some of the things he (Mac B) said where he uses the word communist (the c-word is still a strong word in some parts of the world).

/Per PER9000 07:48, 17 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Aahh, eeh, uuh the late Sovjet! "Communism" as per scientific philosophy doesn't have very much to do with Lenin's and Stalin's failed state-own-it-all system. It just claims the meaning universal property (specifically of all research results), not planned economy. In scientific terms, OpenSource really is "communism", and so OpenSource can be regarded a "communist" movement, but the flaw of comparing this with Leninism is that capitalism have used the scientific results being universal property for their own profit, so that capitalism is dependent on this kind of "communism" for its existence. This is valid for OpenSource as well. All planned economy that exist today is upheld by the international capitalist corporations, since the demise of the "state corporations" of Lenin and Stalin. Rursus dixit. ( m bork3 !) 13:51, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

Material removed
"holds a Bachelor of Science degree from Brigham Young University and received a Master's degree from the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign."
 * If we can get a source, let's readd the material. - Ta bu shi da yu 05:59, 7 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Do you really think this is more of a BLP violation than a passing mention in an op-ed, used to support this block:

McBride has also resorted to personal verbal attacks criticizing journalists covering the SCO litigation, and spending time on company conference calls describing how he's investigating their backgrounds: "All is not as appeared as it is in Groklaw land. … We're digging into who Pam Jones is, and we're close to the bottom."


 * ? This is a derogatory misquote that was in response to a question at a press conference. But we're instead concerned about accidentally suggesting that McBride has a post-high school education. Cool Hand Luke 21:02, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Resignation section
I have edited this section to correct the claim that he will resign from SCO, since the plan that called for his resignation has been withdrawn. Perhaps the whole section should be deleted? Captain Nemo III (talk) 19:40, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Where do you see that the reorg plan has been withdrawn? I cannot find any verification of this. Ronald Joe Record (talk) 22:51, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Disclose COI
For the record, I have a very serious COI regarding Darl McBride and my feelings about SCO's Linux lawsuit being a dishonest scam from the start. I therefore will not be editing his BLP. However, I believe that reverting vandalism is allowable regardless of any COI. Pfagerburg (talk) 23:28, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

External links are all broken except for the one to Groklaw
All the external links are broken except the one to Groklaw.

The two that link to caldera.com are being redirected to sco.com, and of those two, one is redirecting to a page that does not exist.

Also, Darlmcbride.com no longer exists. Perhaps if there is to be a link to Darl McBride's personal website you might need to use the Wayback machine (the internet archive). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.101.84.114 (talk) 03:50, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

Earthworms are nice!
Article claims he got:
 * box of earthworms and dirt

sent to his home as a "hostile" act. Pardon if I'm not agreeing that that is a hostile act, even if intended so. Earthworms are useful for gardens and fishing. Dirt can be used in gardens too. Rursus dixit. ( m bork3 !) 13:35, 14 January 2010 (UTC)


 * I read the source. It's odd how the psyche add details. In the source there were neither earth nor dirt. Since Darl McBride is claimed in that source to be a son of a farmer and other things that none shall be blamed for and I therefore don't mention, I must conclude that the worms were of a wrong kind, unsuitable for a son of a farmer. Rursus dixit. ( m bork3 !) 14:11, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

Inaccurate information in the lede
The lede of this article contains inaccurate information regarding when Caldera/SCO purchased the UNIX business from Santa Cruz Organization. That particular piece of information has been the subject of edit warring and vandalism.

This article says that McBride became CEO of Caldera on 28 June 2002, and that some time after that, Caldera purchased the UNIX business from Santa Cruz.

However, Santa Cruz Operation clearly states, in the lede, that then-SCO sold the UNIX business in 2001.

Clearly one of those is wrong, and I believe it is the statement that Caldera bought the UNIX business after McBride became CEO. Pfagerburg (talk) 21:57, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

Initiator of the suit
Following the information provided in this Groklaw article, which points out that inquiries regarding copied code predate McBride joining in as a CEO, I am removing conceived of from the sentence that reads McBride conceived of and initiated a strategy of claiming.... From what Groklaw says, that appears to have been a preconcocted strategy by the time he joined in (they even suggest his appointment as CEO might have been as a result, rather than the cause, of this strategy).

On a side note, is he really a Mormon? If so, that explains a lot in my view.--81.42.164.73 00:04, 9 September 2005 (UTC)

Yes, he's really a Mormon. As to it "EXPLAINING A LOT IN YOUR VIEW", I'd like an explanation of that. UrbanTerrorist 06:26, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

It explains exactly zip. I have no idea where this guy came from and I really don't know any other Mormon like him. Darl is a product of his own creation. Just a side note, by the way, the church has made a point of demonstrating their use of open source software by running Joomla on a Linux server at tech.lds.org. I don't know if its still what they're doing, but it was for a good long time. see https://tech.lds.org/wiki/Tech.lds.org You'll find none of Darl's strange beliefs about copyright in any of the leaders of the Church. 71.142.54.29 (talk) 08:32, 12 July 2015 (UTC)