Talk:Darren McAsey

Darren, or Harry?
I knew McAsey while he was running the Alexandria Hotel. He was always Harry, never Darren. His facebook page is Harry, not Darren. And http://www.sydneyswans.com.au/news/2012-02-08/swan-songs-with-darren-mcasey says he was "known as Harry (for various reasons)". If he was known as Harry when he played, should this page be at Harry McAsey, rather than Darren McAsey? Regards, Ben Aveling 10:40, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

PS. On my reading of MOS:NICKNAME, Darren "Harry" McAsey is the preferred format:


 * If a person is known by a nickname used in lieu of or in addition to a given name, and it is not a common hypocorism of one of their names, or a professional alias, it is usually presented between double quotation marks following the last given name or initial; the quotation marks are not put in lead-section boldface. Example:
 * Bunny Berigan has: Roland Bernard "Bunny" Berigan.
 * A nickname can eventually become a professional alias, even the most common name for a person. Such a case loses the quotation marks, other than in the subject's lead section if introducing the nickname in mid-name. If the monicker is dominant (in general or in a particular context) it can often be used in other articles without further elaboration. Example:
 * Earvin "Magic" Johnson Jr. (born August 14, 1959) is ...
 * In the article (and in other articles) use: Magic Johnson left Michigan State after his sophomore season to enter the NBA draft.


 * Hi Ben. Not sure he was known widely enough as Harry (during his career) for it to qualify as a MOS:NICKNAME. It all comes down to sourcing. If you search on trove, newspapers of the time only used Darren. Unless it can be demonstrated that he was known as Harry more than Darren while he was a player, I'd be inclined to leave the title as is, but include his nickname in the lede and create a redirect for Harry McAsey (which I see User:Flickerd has already done). Jevansen (talk) 09:09, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
 * With the examples in MOS:NICKNAME, all the nicknames are the title of the article so if this page were Harry McAsey then Darren "Harry" McAsey would be the appropriate format, however, per what Jevansen has said sources seem to show that he was more known as Darren throughout his career, therefore, it's probably best to leave the page title as is. Flickerd (talk) 07:54, 1 May 2018 (UTC)