Talk:Darryl Stingley

Darryl finishing course work by correspondence and getting his degree in 1992
Darryl Stingley: Ex-Football Star Tells Why He Has Forgiven Football Player Who Left Him Paralyzed, Jet Magazine, Clarence Waldron, June 8, 1992, pages 34-37.

Stingley, in Cap and Gown, Hears Cheers Again, NY Times,TIMOTHY W. SMITH, May 10, 1992.

I want to take the time to later summarize this. FriendlyRiverOtter (talk) 21:51, 30 July 2010 (UTC)


 * How's this: "On May 9, 1992, having completed his remaining 24 credit hours through a correspondence course program, Darryl Stingley received his bachelor of physical education from Purdue University."   FriendlyRiverOtter (talk) 19:10, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Stingley Will Get Degree, Sarasota Herald-Tribute, page 3C, April 21, 1992.

Balance needs to be added
''Stingley believed Tatum's efforts to contact him were nothing more than profit-motivated publicity stunts.[17] However, in a 1992 article in Jet Magazine, Darryl said that he forgave Jack a long time ago. But he also said that Jack had had opportunities to contact him over the years and never really made an effort. As might be expected, the situation is complicated.''

I know its Stingley wiki article but it might be advantageous to add Tatums response to this ""It's not so much that Darryl doesn't want to, but it's the people around him," Tatum told the Oakland Tribune in 2004. "So we haven't been able to get through that. Every time we plan something, it gets messed up. Getting to him or him getting back to me, it never happens." http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5413917 --Illuminati hater (talk) 13:26, 4 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Okay, yeah, this might be a pretty good idea.  FriendlyRiverOtter (talk) 23:33, 4 August 2010 (UTC)  And look, Jack doesn't strike me as having been a bad guy.  And one of our references here talks about how this is the nature of the game, that we the fans like the big hits.  And we rather make Jack a scapegoat because we don't want to ask the deeper questions.   Then, I'm glad I read about Darryl Stingley.  I didn't know he had that big a heart.  All the same, it is an emotionally investing topic and subject.  And I can't make any guarantees when I'll feel the right kind of energy to get back to it.  So, if you catch the spirit to dive into it, by all means, do your best work.  Make our article excellent.   FriendlyRiverOtter (talk) 22:34, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

Coach John Madden reaching out.
Spartanburg Herald-Journal (South Carolina), Chicago (AP), “Stingley Battling Back One Year Later”, page D1, July 27, 1979. Coach John Madden had visited Darryl Stingley many times.

We do talk about this in our article, but this might be another good reference. FriendlyRiverOtter (talk) 20:59, 23 June 2011 (UTC)

reference already in our article
A Madden in Full, Pat Toomay, Special to Page 2, ESPN.

" .  .  .  In the days and weeks that followed, Madden visited Stingley, if not daily, then as often as he could. During one visit, Madden discovered a malfunction in Stingley's ventilator. In summoning a nurse to fix the problem, Madden might have saved Stingley's life.

"Football is about assault and survival, as much as it is about anything. Collisions are where each play starts and ends. Grace exists on the field to elude savagery. Men are meant to smash into each other, the harder the better. But they are supposed to get back up, if not instantly, then in seconds, or minutes. After an injury, they come back. It might be months later, or even a year later. But they come back.

"When this fails to happen, as it did in the case of Darryl Stingley, our frailty shows through the masquerade of pads and numbers and facemasks and helmets, the fake armor of invincibility. In such a moment, we don't like what we see. An explanation outside the norms of the game is needed, and so scapegoats are sought. Disturbing feelings are pushed aside. Only the rarest among us grasp the depth of our frailty and still love the game. Is John Madden such a man? I think so. And if I'm right, it all revolves around something that opened him up a long time ago. Something that made him acutely aware of his own vulnerability. .  .  "

Illegal Hit under current rules?
The article states that the hit is still legal as it was head to shoulder. But I think it would be a personal foul now for hitting a defenseless receiver. You don't have to make a helmet to helmet hit to get flagged for this:

All players in virtually defenseless postures are protected from unnecessary hits by the defense, which include helmet-to-helmet contact, helmet-to-body contact, and blows to the head. Intended receivers of forward passes who fail to catch the pass are considered to be in a defenseless position immediately after the pass is missed. (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/cs-070927askjerrymarkbreit,0,4129003.story)

--75.67.16.196 (talk) 11:13, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

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