Talk:Dartmouth, Devon

Infobox
I think that all towns should have an infobox. It should say its population county (ceremonial) county (historical) Post town Services Map

and for the population have 0 - 500 people is a small village 500 - 1000 people is a large village 1,000 - 10,000 people is a small town 10,000 - 50,000 people is an average town 50,000 + is a large town unless it has city status

this would be easier to understand and stop saying village and then calling a place a town. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 217.42.46.119 (talk) 22:26, 10 May 2007 (UTC).
 * There are cities which have far fewer than 50,000 inhabitants, such as Wells, Somerset. Jim Michael (talk) 14:10, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

Town centre fire
I was about to add a couple of sentences about the recent town centre fire, but I see such an attempt has been made and then reverted, citing WP:NOTNEWS and WP:NEWSEVENT, so I'm opening up discussion before taking action.

Firstly, I will note that WP:NEWSEVENT does not apply here: it is a notability guideline, and such guidelines are there to determine whether or not we can have an article on a given subject, not whether we can mention a subject in a relevant article (that is usually determined by verifiability and other content policies, and by consensus).

Secondly, WP:NOTNEWS does not state that news coverage cannot be used in an article. It specifically focuses on excluding "routine news reporting", and states that "breaking news should not be emphasized". Well, I agree that giving the fire its own section would violate the latter, so I seek to add only one or two sentences to the end of the history section. However, I do contend that the fire does not constitute "routine news" – "Tudor buildings destroyed by fire" isn't exactly routine for a town noted for what the BBC describes as its "historic Tudor centre".

I await the response of any attending editors. --Ibn (talk) 13:00, 29 May 2010 (UTC)


 * I disagree, the above guidance is not just about entire articles, but also content within articles. In this case nobody was hurt in the fire, but a few buildings were damaged. The fire is unlikley to have any lasting effect on the town as the buildings will be repaired/rebuilt and the event will be forgotten. I doubt it is going to get any depth of coverage other than in local media (the BBC article is from BBC Devon, it is not featured on the national pages). Of course Dartmouth is a historic Tudor centre, but not all the buildings destroyed are Tudor. Maybe it warrants a small mention in the article, but certainly not a full section which is giving it undue weight. --Simple Bob (talk) 13:15, 29 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Sorry, that's not correct. The page was featured on the UK main page (indeed, is at this very moment, among "Other top stories" there), and it mentions that some of the buildings might have to be demolished. I reverted it and added a few words to the affect. --Thrissel (talk) 10:26, 30 May 2010 (UTC)


 * The fire was a significant one which destroyed eight buildings (some of which were historic and Grade II listed) as well as 15 flats. The removal of this significant event in the town's history is possibly open to question.  Perhaps a sentence rather than a full blown section would suffice.  However, I disagree strongly with Simple Bob regarding the repair/rebuild of such buildings as this simply cannot be done as they were built in the Tudor period and are lost forever.  (talk) 11:54, 4 June 2010 (UTC)


 * To quote Notability: "On Wikipedia, notability determines whether a topic merits its own article. [...] These notability guidelines only outline how suitable a topic is for its own article. They do not directly limit the content of articles." --Ibn (talk) 13:22, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

Notable former and present residents
In the section of famous people I miss a reference to John Russel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Russell_%28dog_breeder%29). Maybe debatable but there are more people in the world that know the Jack Russel than they do Dartmouth. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Every1Happy (talk • contribs) 12:31, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

RfC on disambiguation
Please see RfC at Talk:Dartmouth. --Noleander (talk) 00:53, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

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