Talk:Dartmouth College fraternities and sororities/Archive 1

Missing houses:
 * Panarchy


 * SAE needs cleanup/rewriting/detailing as does KDE --Seanadams 01:03, 18 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Although Panarchy isn't actually a Greek house. If we include it, we'd definitely have to include Amarna as well. However, this article is, at least right now, about only officially-recognized CFS houses. May I suggest that we make a new article in the same spirit as this such as Dartmouth College Non-Greek houses or Dartmouth College social organizations? That could include Panarchy, Amarna, any others like them, and the international, ethnic, etc houses. --└Smith120bh/TALK┐ 05:48, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, Panarchy started out as Phi Psi before it became Panarchy.


 * I think Theta Delt's entry needs to be tweaked some since Robert Frost never graduated from Dartmouth (he only attended for one term).


 * All of these have been addressed in the recent rewrite.--Kharker 21:56, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Delta Sigma Theta?


 * I have just completed an extensive expansion/rewrite of the article. The only major point of fact about which I am uncertain is the current status of Delta Sigma Theta.  Are they still a viable sorority?  As far as I can tell from articles in The Dartmouth, they were expecting to have only one member after spring 2004, and were reprimanded for something or other related to new members in 2004 summer.  They are not listed amongst the other CFS houses on the current 2007 ORL web site, and the Delta Sigma Theta national web site lists four Dartmouth chapter members as suspended for a three year term that started in September, 2004.  So, I'm inclined to think that they are defunct as of September 2004, but I cannot find any actual proof online of that.--Kharker 22:56, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Merging with Phi Tau
There's an old tag on the Phi Tau article to discuss merger. It hasn't attracted any discussion yet, but I think it should be left on it's own. It's a Good Article now, and to merge it into this more general article on Dartmouth Greek Orgs. would do more harm than good. For balance, it would need to basically be gutted of any detail. What's the point of that? Mattnad (talk) 17:36, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

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Table of contents
I realized just now that the TOC is manually written. I can obviously see why -- a generated one would be enormous -- but is there any way to tweak a generated one to appear in this way? I discovered this when I realized that the "See also" section that does actually exist wasn't reflected in the TOC. Obviously, the result is that changes in section headers are not going to be reflected, and someone will need to constantly stay on top of its maintenance. Is there any happy solution possible here? Dylan 22:24, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't know of a better solution, myself. I created the manual TOC because of just the problem you mention - the automatically generated one was enormous.--Kharker 01:10, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Dartmouth fraternity controversy
Here are some news articles about a fraternity controversy: WhisperToMe (talk) 21:25, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Reitman, Janet. "Confessions of an Ivy League Frat Boy: Inside Dartmouth's Hazing Abuses." Rolling Stone. March 28, 2012.
 * "Update: Dartmouth Frat Controversy." Rolling Stone. April 5, 2012.
 * Santo, Frank. "Confessions of an actual Dartmouth student: Rolling Stone vomits all over Ivy Leaguers." New York Daily News. April 2, 2012.
 * Sivertson, Amory. "Dartmouth Hazing Account Spurs Controversy." WBUR. April 3, 2012.

Founding dates
An Anonymous editor has recently insisted that Zeta Psi is the fourth fraternity founded on the campus. This is not true. The first few fraternities were:


 * 1) 1841 Omega Phi (local) --> became Psi Upsilon in 1842
 * 2) 1842 Kappa Kappa Kappa (local) --> became Kappa Chi Kappa in 1992, but reverted to its original name in 1995.
 * 3) 1842 Tau Delta Theta (local) --> became Alpha Delta Phi in 1846 [then became Alpha Delta (local) in 1969]
 * 4) 1853 Delta Kappa Epsilon --> became Storr House in 1970, now defunct
 * 5) 1853 Zeta Psi --> inactive between 1864-1871, between 1873-1920, and from 2007-2009
 * 6) 1858 Sigma Delta Pi --> became Beta Theta Pi in 1889.  In 1996 this chapter changed its name to Beta Alpha Omega (local)

This is the order that Baird's Manual had for these groups. Their records for the early days were vigorously reviewed for order of establishment. The Aegis yearbook can confirm this order.

Status of SAE
This article lists SAE as defunct. While they're currently derecognised, they still host parties, have meetings, recruit new pledges, etc. I think it would be more accurate to move SAE to the "Fraternities" section above, especially since Sid Ep, which is currently houseless and inactive (for now at least, they're coming back as a dry house later in 2022 I believe), is still in that section.

--CongealedBox (talk) 20:53, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Rationale for edits 30 Nov 2023
Large portions of this article featured double spaces after periods (.). This has been changed.

A sentence in the section on Bones Gate read “The brothers of Bones Gate strive to live by their credo of welcoming friends to their house.” Given that this claim is more or less impossible to substantiate, it has been removed.

A paragraph in the section on Sigma Phi Epsilon that was, almost in its entirety, a summary of the national organisation’s “Balanced Man Program,” has been removed (probably WP:NPOV).

Clunky wording vis-à-vis David Benioff’s “now [when?] producing Lovecraft [what does this mean] has been removed.

The introductory sentence for Zeta Psi seems to be trying to draw a link between the house’s “central location” on frat row and its status as the fifth house founded on campus. Given that the oldest house on campus, Psi U, is decidedly not on Webster Ave (nor were Phi Gamma Delta or Delta Kappa Epsilon, two long-defunct fraternities predating Zeta Psi) this analysis is tendentious at best (WP:NOR), and has thus been revised. An unsubstantiated (and likely outdated) paragraph about Zete’s philanthropic endeavours has also been removed.

Alpha Kappa Alpha is active as of 2023, and a citation has been added to reflect this.

Kappa Delta could very well have “one of the strongest sisterhoods on Dartmouth College campus,” but this statement has been removed (WP:NPOV).

Large portions of the section on Kappa Kappa Gamma are attributed to one citation which houses a dead link. Thankfully, the citation includes an archived version of the website, but said archived version contains none of the information present in the sentences citing it. These sentences have been removed.

References to “coeducational fraternities” in the introduction to the section on gender-inclusive Greek houses have been replaced with “gender inclusive (Greek) house.”

More to come...

CongealedBox (talk) 23:15, 30 November 2023 (UTC)