Talk:Dave Wills (sportscaster)

Rays navbox
User:Jrcla2 has twice insisted that, due to the views expressed in this essay, the Tampa Bay Rays navbox should not be placed at the bottom of articles about the two main radio broadcasters for the team, Dave Wills and Andy Freed.

This is silly. The navbox includes links to the main article about the actual baseball team, of course, and also includes links to a List of Tampa Bay Rays broadcasters and an article about the Tampa Bay Rays Radio Network. Wills and Freed are mentioned in all three of those articles, making it quite reasonable to conclude that the navbox would be a nice addition to their own biographies since they are the radio voices of the franchise. True, they are not specifically named or linked in the navbox. However, neither are any of the Rays ballplayers. But as prominent public employees, all of those individual articles include the navbox so that readers can click from article to article learning about all aspects of the Rays. The same thing should happen here.

I totally understand the problem of articles having too many navboxes as described in the "overlink crisis" essay cited by Jrcla2. However, putting the Rays navbox back at the bottom of this article would increase the grand total to two (2) navboxes. At this moment, there is no navbox at all in Freed's article, making it quite unreasonable to argue that restoring one (1) would constitute an "overlink crisis". And in any case, like all essays, the essay cited as the rationale for deleting these navboxes is not any sort of official wikipolicy, but only the "opinions of one or more Wikipedia contributors". Unless I see a better reason to keep the boxes off, I will put them back on in the near future.

And, while I'm at it, let me say that there was absolutely NO need for Jrcla2 to throw down a ridiculously belligerent edit summary ("I'm willing to take this to arbitration if necessary") for a matter that should be calmly discussed on this talk page. It's not personal; it's wikibusiness. Zeng8r (talk) 20:33, 29 March 2012 (UTC)


 * I've added this to my watchlist, so re-adding the navbox will be reverted. Jrcla2 (talk) 15:01, 30 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Well, that's not very convincing.


 * You don't seem to be new to this site. Is there any particular reason why, instead of discussing things like a reasonable person, you're acting like a proverbial male organ about this? If you have some good reason for your action, I'm still willing to hear it. Zeng8r (talk) 21:55, 30 March 2012 (UTC)


 * It's been a week since I posted the message above and it's opening day of the Rays' season. Since there were no reasons given why the Rays navbox should not be included on the articles of the two radio voices of the franchise, it seemed like an appropriate time to go ahead and restore the box, both here and at Andy Freed. Zeng8r (talk) 17:32, 6 April 2012 (UTC)