Talk:David F. Noble

POV concerns
Noble's anti-Israel statements were well-deserved (because in fact Israel has a disproportionate world influence in view of its criminal record and *volkische* definition of full Israeli citizenship) but a very small part of Noble's work at York. This article failed to mention that Noble's main effort was to end corporate domination of the university.

Responsible academics FROM THE CORPORATION including the late computer scientist Edsger Wybe Dijsktra (a Burroughs employee before joining the faculty at UT Austin) and the late management theorist Peter Drucker have questioned the way in which many universities, for their survival, are forced to adopt a corporate agenda.

Noble's focus was NOT on Israel as the article implied; the article caricatured Noble as crypto-Nazi, which is an all too popular strategy for silencing people who, in criticising a corporate hegemony which is primarily controlled by Gentiles, are forced to analyze Israel's complicity in maintaining a Western presence in the middle east.

Instead, Noble shows today how universities (especially second-tier universities accessible to the working class) are forced to play corporate games.

These games include the systematic oppression of graduate assistance and the legalized theft of intellectual property, in which high technology is misused to record and thereby steal the work of top professors...which manages also to exclude the valuable, if less well-known, work of junior faculty.

I conclude that the POV of the article is tilted towards a sly bias and shall now correct the article. I shall retain the information on Noble's critique of Israel since intelligent people can factor this information alongside the broader critique.

Spinoza1111 07:39, 4 December 2005 (UTC)(Edward G. Nilges)

wikified? pov?
I am pretty new to Wikipedia, and don't fully understand the guidelines surrounding 'wikifying' and removing 'pov' from articles. However, this article certainly needs work, with paragraphs such as the following:

"On one level this might cause the reflective to dismiss Noble's more extreme claims. On another, it might cause us to reflect that anger is true energy. One might say, just because he's paranoid doesn't mean nobody is following him.

As a reality check, it can be noted that other academics, well outside the firing line of politics and on business, scientific, and engineering faculties, have echoed Noble's concerns."

which certainly don't belong in anything even vaguely encyclopedic. Peachy1 06:15, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

On social power and technology
LOL!
 * In The Know: Are We Giving The Robots That Run Our Society Too Much Power?
 * Pentagon's Unmanned Spokesdrone Completes First Press Conference Mission

— ¾-10 20:30, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Death
David Noble died December 27, 2010. This has been confirmed with his close friend Denis Rancourt, formerly a professor at the University of Ottawa. This confirmation does not yet meet the standards of Wikipedia. Once a obituary is published, we can update this biography.

FullSmash26 (talk) 02:26, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm adding info from the Globe and Mail. In the interest of full disclosure, I am a former student. Wnissen (talk) 18:19, 30 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks, I freelance for The Globe. Hence, I awaited someone else to update using that information. FullSmash26 (talk) 17:00, 31 December 2010 (UTC)


 * It looked like the Globe obit used some material from Wikipedia. The Star was quite different. Bellagio99 (talk) 17:56, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

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