Talk:David L. Dill

Verified Voting Foundation
Hello! My name is Alyssa and I am currently creating an article for the Verified Voting Foundation. Your article about David L. Dill is great! I am reaching out to see if you have any input/perspective on David L. Dill's work with starting this foundation? Any help is much appreciated, thanks! Alyssaamoreno (talk) 16:26, 22 April 2018 (UTC)
 * It's all written by arbitrary volunteers, so you're just getting public comment. What caught me is that Dill isn't a computer security expert or anything relevant, and VerifiedVoting wants the paper record to be the authoritative record—the paper record, of course, involves ballots moving out of public view and changing hands through small groups of trusted individuals along *thousands* of paths.  It's rife with abuse and is impossible to secure.  Paper ballot security fetishism is a basic example of the appeal to tradition and argumentum ad populum fallacies, begging the question, and the fallacy of composition (notably that paper ballots are immune to electronic hackers and can be looked at, therefor election systems—composed of paper ballots and handling processes—are immune to tampering if using paper ballots). John Moser (talk) 00:40, 4 November 2018 (UTC)