Talk:David de Gea/Archive 1

Manchester United/Sir Alex Ferguson Comments
De Gea is still an Atletico Madrid player, untill otherwise stated by the club. However, it is important to include/reference the comments made by Sir Alex Ferguson of Manchester United. These comments are not saying that De Gea to United is a done deal, nor is it implied. It is not unfounded speculation as there are direct quotes from both parties. Even if De Gea stays at Atletico, it will be important to note in his career profile that he had the opportunity to leave Atletico and the praise given by the Manchester United manager. If someone can give me a rational reason as to why this information should not be included, I will gladly remove it! - Ck786 (talk) 21:59, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from BigRedNev, 25 May 2011
On 25 May 2011 Manchester United Chief Executive, David Gill, confirmed the signing of David-de-Gea.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/may/24/manchester-united-david-de-gea

BigRedNev (talk) 14:03, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Padlock-silver-slash2.svg Not done: is not required for edits to semi-protected, unprotected pages, or pending changes protected pages. Logan Talk Contributions 23:47, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Agree - now Manchester United player. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.137.214.160 (talk) 10:15, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
 * The Guardian piece turned out to be incorrect. Have you got a more recent reliable source that says he has joined? doom gaze   (talk)  14:34, 26 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Have you got a source to prove that the Guardian's story is incorrect. Surely they would have checked their sources, being a top quality newspaper. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.104.28.56 (talk) 00:41, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/13535728.stm. doom gaze   (talk)  00:46, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

– HonorTheKing (talk) 14:25, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
 * until he actually sign the contract with Man Utd and not "might sign" or "will sign", we will add his team club as Man Utd.

Edit request from Shaheen45, 27 June 2011
Please change "plays for athletico madrid" because he has officially signed for manchester united f.c so change that please. He has signed for 18 million.

Shaheen45 (talk) 17:22, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
 * He has not signed for Manchester United. The latest news is that he is having a medical; when he actually signs, the article will be changed to reflect that. doom gaze   (talk)  18:15, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from DonaldFranks, 29 June 2011
Is it worth mentioning hes the second most expensive keeper in the history of football? http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/13933241.stm — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.241.254.142 (talk) 23:21, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I would be pretty reluctant to. As the BBC article says, they're just guessing at the transfer fee as officially it is undisclosed. I think it would be a good piece of info to add (and looking at the figures chances are it is true) but personally I'd wait for the actual amount to be revealed. doom gaze   (talk)  23:36, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

Image
Isn't the current image a copyright violation? I have no idea how to tag it as such though. doom gaze  (talk)  15:36, 9 August 2011 (UTC)

Height
He's certainly not 6'4". In the tunnel before the Community Shield game against Man City he looked shorter than Ferdinand (6'2") and walking off the pitch after the West Brom game he looked roughly the height of Phil Jones (5'11").  Every source I have found states 6'4" but it definitely needs updating.
 * Heights according to Wiki pages. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.150.231.18 (talk) 17:13, 14 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I agree that he doesn't appear as tall as some sources but him, but even the Manchester United website has him down as 193 cm here, which you would presume would be based on players' medical examinations.. Unfortunately wikipedia is not the place for original research, we can only go by what reliable sources say. You would probably have to get in contact with the club itself, or whoever runs their website. Cheers, doom gaze   (talk)  17:22, 14 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't assume that the heights on the club website are based on medical exams. After all, the club website says Rio is 195.5cm tall when he's actually closer to 185cm. – PeeJay 20:51, 14 August 2011 (UTC)
 * True. Maybe it's a phenomenon similar to female actresses lying about their age? doom gaze   (talk)  20:55, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

Typical media nonsense, building you up, then knocking you down. When he under performs you'll find out he's actually 5'10". He looks about 6'1". Always remember him being listed as 6'3", he magically grew an inch after the Man U transfer. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.214.131.210 (talk) 18:19, 27 December 2011 (UTC)

I would have said 1.88m or maybe 1.87m. Rio Ferdinand, is certainly taller than 1.88m, I know he has often been listed as 188 but 1.91 would be nearer. De Gea is not 1.93, though. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.34.60.254 (talk) 15:38, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Haven't 'contributed' to wikipedia before but wanted to verify the height claims. I'm 186cm - a hair over 6'1 - and was lucky enough to meet a few members of the United team in January. I was surprised at the heights of a few of the players: Ferdinand was about my height - definitely not 6'3/6'4 as he's been listed; Phil Jones is probably just over 5'11 (as listed until a few months ago, now seems to be getting 6'2 listings); Welbeck isn't 6'1 - he's about the same as Jones (line up photos back this up). It was De Gea who surprised me the most though, as I always knew he wasn't 6'4 (based on photos next to other players), but in reality he's no taller than 6' flat. I was definitely taller than him. There's a picture of him next to Casillas from a pretty good angle in which he looks to be only slightly taller. I know wikipedia justifies information with 'sources', but in this case it's evidently far from the truth. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.243.253.126 (talk) 15:09, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

Edit request from 122.164.89.140, 15 August 2011
please change number of manchester united appearances from 1 to 2

122.164.89.140 (talk) 10:58, 15 August 2011 (UTC) http://www.manutd.com/en/Players-And-Staff/First-Team/David-de-Gea.aspx

– HonorTheKing (talk) 11:20, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
 * The infobox (side info), shows league appearances only, ie. 1 (against WBA), for all appearances including the cups, see the Club statistics header.

Image at Manchester United
Will anybody be able to find a Image of David De Gea at Manchester United (Redman125 (talk) 20:59, 29 August 2011 (UTC)) – HonorTheKing (talk) 19:30, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
 * go on google and type in David De Gea Man United (WorldSeriesOfPoker500 (talk) 18:55, 16 September 2011 (UTC))
 * You are only allowed to use fair use images on Wikipedia.

Edit request on 16 April 2012
197.224.70.104 (talk) 04:56, 16 April 2012 (UTC)He kept 11 clean sheets and needs just 3 clean sheets to equalize the goalkeeper of manchester city, joe hart
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. B  music  ian  09:25, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

Career Statistics
On his career stats it shows de Gea's appearances & goals. As a goalkeeper would it not be more appropriate to show his clean sheets instead of goals?Perfectamundo (talk) 16:07, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
 * No, this is an issue that has been discussed ad infinitum at WT:FOOTY. The response has always been the same; we shouldn't change it to clean sheets due to inconsistency in the record-keeping throughout the history of the game. – PeeJay 16:18, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

Requesting the de Gea page to be semi-protected...
I think this page (david de gea) should be semi-protected whilst all the rumors going around him leaving until we get news of him either leaving or staying — Preceding unsigned comment added by DM Trix (talk • contribs)


 * X mark.svg Not done This is not the place for those requests. To request protections please go to WP:RPP. Qed237&#160;(talk) 12:19, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 September 2015
DE GEA DOESN'T PLAY FOR WALLSALL

104.148.189.141 (talk) 16:09, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 14 June 2017
I have found incorrect capitalisations of the surname mid-way through sentences which should be changed from "De Gea" to de Gea as displayed on the page title. The 'De Gea' 's at the start of the sentences should remain capitalised. 86.173.162.109 (talk) 16:46, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done I excluded titles of cited works. Izno (talk) 17:18, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
 * This is incorrect. A surname should always be capitalised when written by itself. I am undoing this change. – PeeJay 17:28, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
 * For evidence of this in Spanish, see here. – PeeJay 17:39, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
 * And in English here. – PeeJay 17:40, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, but that is not good evidence. You could just as easily cherry-pick two articles, one in each language, that use the opposite capitalization.  There are multiple examples of that already linked from the article, in fact.  Reverting as you have is edit-warring and can get you sanctioned.  Please discuss this more fully here and provide some evidence about Spanish language name capitalization.  At this point, you have three editors (myself,, and ) who disagree with you.  Please seek consensus. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 17:44, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
 * If anything, it is you guys who should be seeking consensus to change longstanding text within an article. There is no evidence here that it should be lower case either. Nevertheless, here are some sources that keep his name capitalised when the surname is used in isolation:, , , . – PeeJay 18:04, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Pee is correct and is restoring the article to the unchanged version. It is you who should be seeking consensus to change it. Read what is said here about Spanish names with 'de'.  It is "David de Gea" when using his first name, "De Gea" when not. -- Escape Orbit  (Talk) 14:22, 15 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes we have a correct opinion with here. Other wikis do show the name as capital 'De' and this one should also be as it is. 86.169.255.138 (talk) 16:30, 15 June 2017 (UTC)

Edit warring
These types of edits is starting to get tedious with the removal of the phrase "regarded by many as". The latest batch of edits are what seems to be edit warring (and possible sock puppetry) - everyone should know that there are lots of professional goalkeepers, hence there should be at least one "best goalkeeper" in the whole world of football. This type of editing should be stopped ASAP please. Iggy (Swan) 17:08, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

wtf
Why did nobody expand on David de Gea`s 2016-17 season???Inalol (talk) 20:06, 4 January 2019 (UTC)Inalol
 * Wikipedia is the encyclopedia that anyone can edit. As you have shown, "anyone" includes you. Thanks. – PeeJay 20:51, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

Rape allegations
Not sure how something this delicate should be handled, but is there a reason that the very public rape allegations are not found anywhere on this page? 128.54.68.146 (talk) 02:59, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 15 January 2019
On 13 January 2018, at the twenty-second match of the Premier League against Tottenham Hotspur, De Gea made an incredible eleven saves at the second half, which helped his team take the 0-1 victory. 145.100.198.222 (talk) 00:48, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. DannyS712 (talk) 01:21, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 February 2019
Change 78. Oscroft, Tim (5 October 2013). "Schmeichel lauds De Gea save". Manchester United F.C. Retrieved 6 October 2013. to https://www.manutd.com/en/news/detail/Peter-Schmeichel-praises-David-De-Gea-save-against-Sunderland as it was a broken link. 148.252.245.122 (talk) 14:07, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

Change reference  4. "Player of the Year Awards 2015 16". Manchester United F.C. 3 May 2016. Archived from the original on 3 May 2016. Retrieved 3 May 2016. to https://www.manutd.com/en/news/detail/POTY-Manchester-United-goalkeeper-David-De-Gea-named-Sir-Matt-Busby-Player-of-the-Year-for-2015-16 148.252.245.122 (talk) 14:12, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

Change reference 86. Thompson, Gemma (20 March 2014). "De Gea is world class". Manchester United F.C. Retrieved 19 December 2014. to https://www.manutd.com/en/news/detail/phil-jones-hails-world-class-david-de-gea due to a broken link. 148.252.245.122 (talk) 14:39, 12 February 2019 (UTC)


 * ✅. Vaselineeeeeeee★★★ 15:49, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

Name
His name is "de Gea" NOT "De Gea"

I've gone through and change them but there are likely some I've missed. Please change any you find.

Thankyou Mn1548 (talk) 12:06, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
 * No, you're wrong. Whenever he is referred to by only his surname, it should be capitalised as "De Gea". See here. – PeeJay 12:12, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

Editor
Respect Lordel29 (talk) 14:54, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 May 2021
Lordel29 (talk) 14:54, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 15:10, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 May 2021
Intro: “He was regarded to be one of the best goalkeepers in the world.”

Change “is” to “was”, as the sources are over two years old and this is no longer strictly the case. 148.252.128.151 (talk) 16:56, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done Run n Fly (talk) 18:16, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

Grammar Error
Change "On 23 February, De Gea recorded his second consecutive clean sheet for United, stopping a Loïc Rémy shot and a Christopher Samba header to help United to 2–0 victory over Queens Park Rangers." to "On 23 February, De Gea recorded his second consecutive clean sheet for United, stopping a Loïc Rémy shot and a Christopher Samba header to help United to a 2–0 victory over Queens Park Rangers. ManUnitedLemur (talk) 02:18, 2 July 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 July 2021
Change Unai Simon to Unai Simón. 73.162.91.15 (talk) 23:27, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅ ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 16:54, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 30 September 2021
David de gea appeared 449 games for manchester united Ramus48 (talk) 14:01, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

David de gea appeared 449 games for manchester united Ramus48 (talk) 14:02, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 14:30, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

Outdated information
At the end of the style of play section, it is stated that De Gea hasn’t saved a penalty since 2016. After saving penalties from Mark Noble and Ismaïla Sarr in the 2021-2022 premier league season, this is no longer correct. 81.97.232.78 (talk) 23:17, 25 December 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 October 2022
You can add 2022–23 season section: On 16 October 2022, he played his 500th match for Manchester United in all competitions, in a goalless draw against Newcastle United. source 2A02:908:4E3:9520:D160:E685:4845:8734 (talk) 16:18, 16 October 2022 (UTC)


 * ✅ Among Us for POTUS (talk) 22:02, 6 November 2022 (UTC)

Appearances
David de gea has 529 appearances for United he has 400 in the premier league and 129 in cup and European competitions this page says 400 appearances 2A01:B340:61:BC6:E9CA:C335:2EDC:9470 (talk) 16:22, 14 February 2023 (UTC)

“One of the best in the world”
The article has been re-edited to cite De Gea as one of the best goalkeepers in the world, using references which are nine years old. He is no longer considered in this bracket, not even being one of the three Spanish goalkeepers brought to the 2022 FIFA World Cup. Therefore this statement should be made in past tense. 2A00:23C7:2A85:D001:61AA:7018:A024:C75D (talk) 12:16, 21 February 2023 (UTC)


 * I would argue that the Spain squad doesn’t reflect how good he is, just the manager’s preferences. We all know that De Gea’s biggest weakness is playing with the ball at his feet, and Spain’s main style of play revolves around that. Surely you’re not arguing that Simon, Raya or Sanchez are even remotely close to his level either…
 * He’s got through the bad patch and has been incredible ever since the start of 2022 for United, and that deserves to be reflected. As Manuel Neuer showed, one bad season doesn’t mean he’s not still one of the best.
 * (FFCETT77 (talk) 00:23, 27 February 2023 (UTC))
 * My main point is that if Wikipedia citations are vastly outdated, they should not be described in present tense.
 * Incidentally, recent publications from respected sources no longer seem to consider De Gea in this category:
 * https://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/ranked-the-10-best-goalkeepers-in-the-world
 * https://www.radiotimes.com/tv/sport/football/best-goalkeepers-world/ 2A00:23C7:2A85:D001:1479:FB7E:D858:3A4D (talk) 12:29, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
 * https://www.radiotimes.com/tv/sport/football/best-goalkeepers-world/ 2A00:23C7:2A85:D001:1479:FB7E:D858:3A4D (talk) 12:29, 13 March 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 July 2023
David De Gea’s contract expiry was June 30 2023, not July 1 2023

To change the contract expiry date. 2A02:C7C:A236:6800:9BD:14C0:E933:C3DD (talk) 08:58, 1 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made.  — Paper9oll  (🔔 • 📝)  09:48, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

“one of the best of his generation”
This needs a citation 81.140.6.15 (talk) 17:33, 11 July 2023 (UTC)

Appearances
his stats show approx 464 appearances but the body of text says "over 500".

Both cannot be correct. 91.135.10.179 (talk) 17:24, 30 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Both are absolutely correct, provided that you read the infobox properly. Take another look at the notes at the bottom of the infobox and then get back to us. – PeeJay 00:00, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

Change the statistics column
De Gea is a goalkeeper, not a field player like striker. he doesn't score goals so why is that only shown.

show his career saves 98.110.240.159 (talk) 18:05, 21 September 2023 (UTC)