Talk:Daytona Beach, Florida

Notable inhabitants
I removed Mark Martin from the list of notable residents and moved him to the Port Orange, Florida page. IIRC, he is a resident of the Spruce Creek Fly-In, which is associated with the latter town, not Daytona. - Aerobird 13:35, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

I think we can remove Bob Ross too. He's dead. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.62.169.249 (talk) 00:50, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * A few them are. I didn't think that was a problem. They lived here at one time or another. Recury 02:28, 13 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Just because someone died does not negate notability. David Sholtz (now deceased), 26th governor of Florida, was from Daytona Beach. Would you argue that he is no longer notable because he died? Gamweb (talk) 21:02, 2 December 2008 (UTC)


 * I would argue he is no longer an inhabitant because he is dead. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.171.186.156 (talk) 16:54, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

Media
Out-of-town media has been creeping into this article. The Orlando Sentinel was first, now there are a bunch of radio stations that are OUTSIDE of Daytona Beach, and located in nearby cities. Should all of these be listed in Daytona Beach? Should they be listed in their home cities only? How many times should the same media be listed in Wikipedia? Gamweb (talk) 17:02, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I think we need to list the other TV stations that consider Daytona Beach in their coverage area (for example, all of the Orlando-based media: WFTV, WOFL, WKMG, etc., and anyway the market is called Orlando-Daytona Beach-Melbourne). Not including them in the article gives the impression that Daytona only gets NBC and PBS. -Bardiak (talk) 01:28, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Then I suggest a link be placed to a "Orlando-Daytona Beach-Melbourne" page. Otherwise, you can apply the same policy to all the towns and cities throughout Central Florida, and the city pages will be a big mess. Gamweb (talk) 12:56, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

You are missing The Daytona Post, an online newspaper that covers news,events and politics in Daytona Beach. The only other news source, The News Journal is politicized too far to the left and fails to have a balanced view. see http://www.daytonapost.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.118.226.148 (talk) 22:21, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Please read External links. -- Donald Albury 23:16, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Tornadoes of 22-23 February, 1998
The passage regarding deaths from the tornado outbreak is erroneous. There was only one death in the Daytona Beach area during the outbreak, which was also the only death to occur in Volusia County. The Seminole-Volusia County tornado killed 13 persons in Seminole County, mostly in the Sanford area. There was one death at Rod and Silvi's (also known as Freddie's) Fish Camp on the Saint John's River near Lake Jessup, which lies on the Seminole-Volusia county line, however, this death is also listed as occurring in Seminole County. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.38.80.221 (talk) 19:08, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Notables
Muriel A. "Mandy" (Hardy) Dawson,-Member of The Florida House of Representatives--(93rd dist.)-1992-1998. Elected to The Florida Senate--(Dist. 29)-1998-2008. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.189.25.231 (talk) 04:16, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Gas price / housing downturn
Can somebody add a pointer to vacancy rates in Daytona due to gas price and housing downturn and its effect on tourism? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.131.30.176 (talk) 18:25, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

"Controversy" section
The sources cited are more about the use of eminent domain in general, and mention Daytona only as an example. The section appears to be pushing an anti-eminent domain message. -- Donald Albury 15:39, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

-Your point is that the resource links are too general. That has nothing to do with neutrality. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.106.186.17 (talk) 20:24, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

The sources cited talk only about Daytona Beach and don't mention any other city. It is very relevant to Daytona residents. They were the first two hits on google. If you can find a better article, the add it to the cite list. Plus the wikipedia paragraph does not say if eminent domain is "good" or "bad", so it is very neutral. If you want to change the wording to be more neutral, please go right ahead. It seems to be stated in a neutral, facts only fashion. The NPR podcast actually is from liberal public radio and NPR usually supports big government, so if anything, that cite is more pro-eminent domain than anti-eminent domain. It might be that your feelings on the subject make it seem non-neutral. Maybe the name of the section should be "Daytona Beach City Council eminent domain" instead of "controversy"? That would be an improvement. Actually, the spin is pro-eminent domain since it points out that the city considers it "good" to "redevelop" and "improve" a "blighted" areas. It is very interesting, in that there are only 2 cities that I am aware of that have taken land and buildings for private purpose rather than public purpose. That is why Daytona made national news. Anonymous coward afraid of big government

OK, I added the city's point of view and it's pro-eminent domain argument for the area by linking in their artice: http://www.ci.daytona-beach.fl.us/cityhall/redev/plans/MAIN%20ST%20REDEV%20PLAN.pdf That cities article goes on and on about pro-eminent domain stance. Pretty useful to see how the city wants the area developed. Unfortunately, I couldn't find an article of similar length showing the arcade owners'and restaurant owner's point of view to balance the cities point of view. http://www.entrepreneur.com/magazine/entrepreneur/2005/january/74866.html is neutral; it does not say whether public or private control is better. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4760258 is also neutral and good for sight impaired wikipedia users. Can we remove the neutrality link now? anonymous —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.131.25.50 (talk) 16:44, 30 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I want to see what other established editors have to say about this. -- Donald Albury 02:02, 31 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Is there a reason to hide these facts about city government? By the way, I am an established editor of Wikipedia for many years now.  I just like privacy.. anon  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.131.2.94 (talk) 03:09, 31 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Since you edit from different IPs, there is no way of identifying you as an established editor. And creating and using a registered account would give you more privacy, as the IP you are posting from would no longer be displayed to every reader of Wikipedia. -- Donald Albury 22:44, 31 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Most of the editors on Wikipedia are teenager vandals who enjoy deleting stuff and never add any content. Read some of the blog comments on slashdot about deletionists and people who to delete anything they personally disagree with.  Some of the "editors" wanted to delete the fact that parts of New Orleans are below sea level because that fact was "not neutral".  I would rather Wikipedia was truly neutral rather than deletionist neutral.  Some of the smartest people I know have quit volunteering on Wikipedia in their area of expertise because of deletionist and history revisionists.  Wikipedia is not neutral, it is far right wing in most articles.  BTW, IP address can still be logged by a computer even if you have an account.  anon  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.131.23.69 (talk) 02:13, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

"Wikipedia is not neutral, it is far right wing in most articles." That's certainly not the consensus except from Media Matters.--TL36 (talk) 02:32, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

I was under the impression that this "controversy" is already over with, since a lawsuit was settled between the City and the owner of the Arcade. "Old news." (I've been a Daytona Beach resident for over 10 years) Gamweb (talk) 13:20, 1 September 2008 (UTC)


 * NPR played it on the radio a few months ago. COuld be a replay, but I thought it was not settled yet?  What about the lawsuit against the restaurants and other beach side property owners, are they over?   Do you a website that we can cite? anon —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.131.31.1 (talk • contribs)


 * State of Florida passed a law in 2006, that prohibited further abuse of the Eminent Domain process. I know the "lawsuit" was settled and the City of Daytona Beach had to pay out some big bucks. Sorry, don't have a link for that - it was in the Daytona Beach News Journal  which only offers "free" archives going back two weeks. Since this issue is now relevant for Florida, I vote to "delete" this section from the Daytona Beach article. Gamweb (talk) 21:03, 2 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Yeah, this was an issue in other places in Florida (big fight over it in Riviera Beach), but I'm not aware of it being covered in other cities' articles. As this was a state-wide issue, any coverage should be in a state-level article. -- Donald Albury 11:48, 3 September 2008 (UTC)


 * I would vote for an add to state of Florida wikipedia article with a link from this page where the Controversy section is now saying something like "The Daytona Beach Eminent Domain lawsuit has been settled (but no cite?) and the main article about the Florida Eminent Domain Law is in the Florida article under the Law section." or something like that. Without a link to the Florida page, it would be hard for people reading this subject to find it quickly.  Links are one of the main benefits of the web.  Rename the Controversy section "City Zoning and Eminent Domain".  I would vote for leaving the info in this page with more detailed info about the state law on the state page or state article.  Hmmm, maybe these Talk pages are useful after all.  71.131.7.181 (talk) 04:59, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

-Your point is that the resource links are too general. That has nothing to do with neutrality. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.106.186.17 (talk) 20:26, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Dubious - only place in the world that you can drive on the beach
Says who? Where does this infomation come from? I'm pretty sure you can drive on other beaches where the sand is frequently wetted and thus compacted. I would guess that even beaches with a lot of dunes usually have an area close to the water that could probably be driven on. I know that when I went to Daytona, it was not a novelty for me to drive on the beach, since I had done it many times before. Ufwuct (talk) 21:28, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
 * The passage you challenged uses the phrase one of the few places, not the only place as you posted here. Since you do not identify the location(s) where you drove on a beach (other than Daytona Beach), I find your challenge to be dubious. :p Gamweb (talk) 09:31, 13 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm sure that there are many places one can drive a car on beach (the beach on Marco Island was one, before the island was developed, and I seem to recall some beach in Wales being used for car races), but Daytona is famous for cars driving on the beach, and I can't think of any other beach that is so well known for being drivable. Perhaps it would be better to cast the statement in those terms. -- Donald Albury 11:19, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Found it: Pendine Sands, Wales -- Donald Albury 11:28, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Racing on beaches in New Zealand - An interesting quote, "When, in 1921, the first organised races were held, beaches were still regarded as the most suitable venues." -- Donald Albury 11:32, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, compared to the brick and gravel paved surfaces of the era, compacted beach sand was much smoother and could offer long straightaways needed due to the high speeds. Not all beach areas feature sand with the right geological composition, nor are they all free of rock formations, inlets, marshes, mangroves, etc.  Daytona met all the above criteria, hence its appeal to racers and its status as the site of many early land speed records, and eventually the birthplace of NASCAR. --TampAGS (talk) 02:12, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

While I do not know about other countries, due to State and Federal Laws, there are very few places in the US that allow beach driving. St. John's county, to the north of Volusia County, is one of them, I know for a fact. The fact remains, though, very few beaches in the US allow it.--Vox Rationis (Talk &#124; contribs) 16:03, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

Re: WVYB inclusion
Per City of License, policy and regulatory issues strictly states a radio station MUST maintain a main studio within the vicinity of the broacast area; irregardless to what city it's licensed to. According to the station's site, www.wvyb.fm, their primary and only studio is located in Daytona Beach and not Holly Hill, where the signal is licensed, not transmitted. The station's style and format is based within the city of Daytona Beach. There for, it should be listed in partnership with the city of Holly Hill to give clarity. -- A3RO (mailbox)  23:58, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Since no relevant discussion is available, it can stay in the article. -- A3RO (mailbox)  02:21, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Since this discussion was posted in October, and no discussion was given, I decided to leave the addition in the article. Discuss first, by checking here for any recent conversations, before undoing or removing the edit in question. Thanks. -- A3RO (mailbox)  06:30, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Hi
Is The World Most Famous Beach Daytona Beach. I Think That Is A Big Issue Cause I Do Not Think It Says The World Most Famous Beach Is Dayton Beach. Daytona Beach. __66.131.190.6 (talk) 21:44, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
 * "Worlds Most Famous Beach" is the City slogan, not any other claim of factual argument. 98.65.183.114 (talk) 05:57, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

The Discusiion Should Put More Spart. Soccer Leage. __01:22, 13 May 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.131.190.6 (talk)

Does AnyBoday Disagree With Me. If You Do Write A Message On Wiki. I Needx Your Opinion. Thank __01:24, 13 May 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.131.190.6 (talk)

Florida Post Pag Does Not Exist. __01:54, 14 May 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.131.190.6 (talk)

I am going to add ocean walk village to points of interes.

--66.131.190.6 (talk) 19:41, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Do you like living in Daytona and why —Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.73.69.89 (talk) 16:51, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

/* Demographics */ Regarding US Census Population
I've removed the table with "combined data" and replaced it with data for Daytona Beach only. This is consistent with the Template:USCensusPop as used in numerous other cities (for instance, New York City does not contain the combination population with Brooklyn before the consolidation, nor does Philadelphia contain the entire population of Philadelphia county before consolidation, etc.) DemocraticLuntz (talk) 12:35, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

Assessment comment
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Sister city
According to, Daytona Beach is a sister city to Bayonne, France. Not sure how I could work that in, or even if it belongs at all, so I'll just put here for now. Recury 17:54, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
 * New sections on talk pages should be placed at the bottom of the page. I have move the section you added to here. Many articles about cities have information about sister cities. See how it is handled in Jacksonville,_Florida. - Donald Albury 16:25, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

Origin of the name?
I couldn't see anywhere the origin of the name "Daytona" though I have wondered where it came from. Could the info be added? 2A01:CB05:3AC:8300:6889:883:8F68:8223 (talk) 16:25, 31 January 2023 (UTC)


 * It is kind of buried, but see the end of the third paragraph in the History section. Donald Albury 20:22, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Well, it's supposed to commemorate one Mathias Day Jr., but why DaytonA, not "Dayton" or "Daytown"? Faux Spanish? 89.64.70.195 (talk) 01:38, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I agree. I'm so tired of folks pretending that Mathias Day's surname "explains" why the city is named Daytona. Would Mathias Smith mean the town would be named Smithtona? 2602:306:BC65:4439:41FB:915C:9D27:41A6 (talk) 06:47, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
 * When all is said and done, we can only use what reliable sources say. If someone can find a reliable source that gives a better account of the origin of the name, that would be great. Until that happens, we are stuck with what currently known reliable sources say. Donald Albury 14:57, 19 February 2024 (UTC)