Talk:Deadmau5/Archive 4

Pronounced
- simply put Moxy is a moron and got it wrong -- :-) Moxy (talk) 20:04, 5 July 2013 (UTC) So the move is over and as we have all come to discover as per the above its not pronounced "dead mouse" thus why the s in "Deadmaus" makes no sense. Should we not change the lead to reflect dead mow five source?Moxy (talk) 17:08, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Minority pronunciation. Don't think it's worth it. And the admin did not explicitly close the RM on account of this pronunciation. MidnightRequestLine (talk) 17:20, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
 * But the article is currently wrong - the artist himself has explained the proper pronunciation and its not dead mouse as we are currently saying - does not matter how may others get it wrong we should get it right - as we have a source. What got us to this point (move debate) in the first place was someone  that did not understand the pronunciation of the name -  thinking a 5 was for an s when in fact its for  the numbers sound. Moxy (talk) 18:54, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
 * As MidnightRequestLine said, a minority pronounces it as that. It wasn't moved because it absolutely, 100% has to be pronounced with a 5, but rather because it can. At least, that's my impression of what happened, I kinda withdrew from the conversation a while ago  Helicopter  Llama  19:16, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Since when do we go by what the artist says? As far as I know, all the reliable sources pronounce it "dead mouse". Hence, the sources that call it "dead mow five" are in the minority. Maybe if we find some more good reliable sources calling it "dead mow five", then it would be worth mentioning. Maybe we can mention it in the article now but we shouldn't advertise it as the primary mainstream pronunciation. MidnightRequestLine (talk) 19:19, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Uh... I'm pretty sure we can include both, and state that "dead mow five" is the official pronunciation, whilst "dead mouse" is a common alternative. Luke no 94  (tell Luke off here) 19:23, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Let me be clear - never said the move was because of this - what I am say is that the most reliable source on the proper pronunciation is not being used - as we discover during the move process. Who care how some fans pronounce the name - what matter is we get it right here as per the source. Why would we not fix the wrong pronunciation when we have a source by the artist himself. So to be clear your position is the artist himself is wrong on the pronunciation of his own name that he invented correct? - why is common sense so hard to apply to this article - why do we keep perpetuating the wrong info to our readers is beyond me.Moxy (talk) 19:30, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't think a tweet counts as an official pronunciation. Besides, I personally think he was being sarcastic. This feels very tongue in cheek. This is not to say the RM should be changed, because the RM was not closed because of this pronunciation issue. It was closed because Deadmaus is not a real word and is not used by reliable sources, and because there is wide spread consensus for Deadmau5. In fact, when the admin said ""Deadmau5" may not be a simple stylization issue (like replacing "S" with "$")", I don't think he/she was referring to this pronunciation, I think he/she was referring to the argument I made that the 5 is standing in for "se", not just "s", and thus Deadmouse would be a more acceptable alternative than Deadmaus. MidnightRequestLine (talk) 19:31, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
 * I think using common sense should tell you that he was being sarcastic. MidnightRequestLine (talk) 19:34, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
 * This was very interesting comment - never though of this - so decided to Email the music company (I happen to have an old contract with Capitol Records aswell) and got back a very fast reply as i know a few people (I am old retired  musician Moxy (band)). You are correct its pronounced deadmouse- some story about how  EFnet on IRC only has  8 characters possible for a username. They said this is evident in the sub company Mau5trap also. I know that a personal email from a record company is not reliable by any means - but it does satisfy me....Sorry to all for this thread - I need to use more common sense I guess. Cant get over how this nae cause so many problems....This one my faultMoxy (talk) 19:59, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Ah that's interesting. I heard once that deadmau5 was his IRC name as well. No need to be sorry! You've been very helpful in making our case on this issue. Thanks for all your help. MidnightRequestLine (talk) 23:19, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
 * when the admin said ""Deadmau5" may not be a simple stylization issue (like replacing "S" with "$")", I don't think he/she was referring to this pronunciation, I think he/she was referring to the argument I made that the 5 is standing in for "se", not just "s", and thus Deadmouse would be a more acceptable alternative than Deadmaus. - Not likely, as that argument was complete nonsense and only demonstrated that you don't really understand proper nouns. Not to mention that it had no traction with any other editor. In fact, I think I'm the only one who even took notice of it. In reality, the ambiguity around the pronunciation issue was central in pushing through the move, as any cursory glance at the discussion will show. You even encouraged that confusion yourself (by stating that "a significant minority of people (real life fans!) do pronounce it "Dead-mow-five"", and by staying silent on the issue despite knowing that it was a red herring), since you knew that argument was in your favour, even though you disagreed with it. But, c'est la vie... I agree that "dead mau five" appears to be a mispronunciation that only marks one out as tragically unhip amoung Mau5keteers. Wetdogmeat (talk) 23:48, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

Wetdogmeat just drop it. It's clear that consensus disagrees with you on this one! How would you feel if someone decided to move Noah23 to Noah (Hip hop artist) based on YOUR arguments and logic? PantherLeapord (talk) 23:53, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
 * I would mostly feel bewildered and exasperated at how someone could have failed to grasp the most central and most simple point made in this entire discussion despite participating so passionately in it (the difference between characters that are pronounced and those that are not), and then I would move the article back per WP:UCN. However, you're right re: WP:STICK, and that was my last word on the Deadmau5 issue. Wetdogmeat (talk) 23:59, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
 * No offense, Panther Leopard Leapord, but it doesn’t sound like you actually read his reply.
 * To Wetdogmeat: You still seem to be ignoring the assertions that “Joel (deadmau5) has called himself "Dead mau five" on a large number of occasions: he has used the name in his online livestreams”. Surely that should disabuse you of the notion that it’s a mistake. I’m not sure that means it bears mention in the article, though, given how prevalent “dead mouse” is. —Frungi (talk) 00:13, 6 July 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm not ignoring it, I'm just not accepting it without substantiation. Deadmau5 fans have hardly been above bending the truth a little (or a lot) in this discussion, so I'm not accepting anyone's word on it. If it's true, then the two pronunciations should be in the lede, and, as I've said, if true, then I also support the move back. Wetdogmeat (talk) 00:22, 6 July 2013 (UTC)
 * True, it would have been nice if a link or two to those streams had been provided along with the claims. So how about it, people? User:Nb07wiki? User:Donkey-er? —Frungi (talk) 00:41, 6 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Wetdogmeat - I still contend that a significant minority of people use the pronunciation Dead mow five. That has never changed. But I do not believe that minority pronunciations should be advertised in the first paragraph. Nothing has changed. And as has always been the rule, we do not go by what the artist calls himself. MidnightRequestLine (talk) 00:44, 6 July 2013 (UTC)
 * If so, there is no reason to be inaccurate or misleading. If the name is pronounced either "dead mouse" or "dead mau five", then a pronunciation key that states only "pronounced "dead mouse"" is misleading by omission. It also solves legibility/comprehension problems, which is a concern of several editors, so it's two birds with one stone. Wetdogmeat (talk) 00:54, 6 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Go to deadmau5.com, click on "Bio". You'll see that the artist's web site says "pronounced 'dead mouse'". No alternatives listed there. —BarrelProof (talk) 02:43, 6 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Go to deadmau5.com, click on "Bio". You'll see that the artist's web site says "pronounced 'dead mouse'". No alternatives listed there. —BarrelProof (talk) 02:43, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

“Career” section layout
Usually, I think, the Career/History section of an artist’s article is organized by year ranges. This one is organized by album releases with other stuff (Billboard, MTV) mixed in. I was just wondering if there’s a consensus on the layout of artist articles, and whether this one should be changed. —Frungi (talk) 03:45, 12 July 2013 (UTC)


 * Yes the career section definitely needs cleaning up, along with the years added to the subheadings. Stuff like "chart success" and "MTV recognition" should not be subheadings, instead if it is reliable sourced, and notable thrown in another section of the same time period.  STATic  message me!  05:33, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
 * I added the “Chart success” heading; that text didn’t make sense to me as part of the preceding subsection. And I’m wondering, also, if those should be altogether separated from the stuff about the releases, like at the end of the overall section or in a “Reception” section or something. —Frungi (talk) 04:44, 12 July 2013 (UTC)


 * I think it all falls under his career so there is no real need for a reception section, just thrown in under the album subsections depending on when it occurred. I removed a couple not really notable things, that weren't properly sourced anyways. Also added years to the subsections and combined small sections.  STATic  message me!  05:33, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

He moved back to Toronto.
On the article it says "...from Toronto, now based in Los Angeles". After he broke up with Kat Von D he moved back to his house in Toronto. Just pointing that out. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.88.7.24 (talk) 01:15, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

DailyCircuit Controversy - wording?
It's hard to tell exactly what this part of the article is trying to say based on the wording. Is the LP_Faxing Berlin sample the "demo track" that Deadmau5 provided, or was it already bundled with FL Studio to begin with and subsequently copyrighted by Deadmau5 after its use in Faxing Berlin?

This is actually causing some debate on the merit of Deadmau5's work elsewhere, so it would be a good idea to change this paragraph around. — Preceding unsigned comment added by WizMystery (talk • contribs) 17:00, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

Just a note
Y'all may be interested in joining the Sunn O))) RM. Insulam Simia (talk/contribs) 20:20, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

Also, the pronunciation of Deadmau5 should read "Dead Mao Five" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.17.202.56 (talk) 02:23, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

(recrof) "Dead Mao Five" - source?

Personal life states his relationship with Evans twice.
Can someone edit this so it's correct? Wikipedia seems to have changed quite a bit since I last edited page, and I'm unsure of how to do it it myself.

EDIT: The issue appears to have been corrected. BillyAlt (talk) 03:12, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

Parody Controversy?
Doesn't explain why the parodies are controversial. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.99.94.31 (talk) 20:06, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 July 2014
Stepout182 (talk) 17:41, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

If you want to suggest a change, please request this in the form "Please replace XXX with YYY" or "Please add ZZZ between PPP and QQQ". Please also cite reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to any article. - Arjayay (talk) 17:56, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: as you have not requested a change.

Semi-protected edit request on 18 July 2014
Please change the title of the article from Deadmau5 to deadmau5. Other articles such as iPhone and iCarly have stylized article titles, setting a precedent for making this change.

W.guthro (talk) 21:15, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done. —Mr. Granger (talk · contribs) 03:53, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
 * ❌: I reverted that. The title of this article has been highly contentious – subject to several move requests and a move review – and should not be changed casually. MOS:TM still applies. This change of title is contrary to the outcome of that extensive discussion that occurred not so long ago. —BarrelProof (talk) 04:07, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

SoundCloud account
Zimmerman has deleted all tracks from his SoundCloud account, except for one, and has renamed the account "fuckmylife". Anyone thinks that should be mentioned? 24.201.216.214 (talk) 08:12, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
 * his account has been named that for quite some time now, long before he deleted everything lol  ~Helicopter  Llama~  14:28, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm not saying that he did it just now, but it's definitely worth a mention IMO because to me it looks like something related to his copyright claims and legal issues. 24.201.216.214 (talk) 21:10, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
 * when you put it that way it sounds like speculation/original research; he deleted the songs about 8 months ago too, long before this disney hubbub. personally i think they both need to...let it go :(  ~Helicopter  Llama~  21:37, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 November 2014
some times in minecraft, the load times say deadmau5 likes minecraft.

120.145.135.213 (talk) 08:16, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
 * That sounds a bit like trivia, which isn't included in Wikipedia. Stickee (talk) 08:40, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 December 2014
Must add new Grammy nomination information for the 57th Annual Grammy Awards 2015 for Best Electronic Album while(1<2) by Joel Zimmerman.

Emilyrshelton24 (talk) 22:57, 6 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. — &#123;&#123;U&#124;Technical 13&#125;&#125; (e • t • c) 23:31, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 December 2014
I believe that Deadmau5 is a progressive trance producer, not progressive house. He does not like house, he even did a parody of Martin Garrix at one of his shows.

DivAE (talk) 20:55, 11 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: as you have not cited reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 08:37, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

Joel Thomas Zimmerman, a.k.a. deadmau5 (pronounced dead mouse) is a trance, house and techno producer from Toronto, Ontario, Canada. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SpriteMusic (talk • contribs) 22:19, 18 December 2014‎ (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 December 2014
71.185.176.189 (talk) 00:53, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Cannolis (talk) 01:35, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 December 2014
71.185.176.189 (talk) 03:29, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Zhaofeng Li [ talk... contribs... ] 07:33, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 7 January 2015

 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. — &#123;&#123;U&#124;Technical 13&#125;&#125; (e • t • c) 17:51, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

DJ Magazine awards

 * 2014
 * Music
 * Top 100 DJs
 * 16th place
 * 16th place

83.251.122.147 (talk) 17:08, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 January 2015
A sub header should be added under header "Career" for 2015, and under it, the following text should be added:

"On January 13th, 2015, it was announced that Deadmau5 would be a headlining act for the Bonnaroo Music and Arts Festival, in Manchester, TN, to be held June 11-15, 2015. Zimmerman is the first EDM artist to attain headliner status in the festival's 14-year history. [www.bonnaroo.com]

Arcadius989 (talk) 02:51, 16 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done but I've used another source. Stickee (talk) 04:16, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 January 2015
Add at the top of the page, since apparently it’s been decided to use lowercase for that name throughout the article. —174.141.182.82 (talk) 04:25, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

174.141.182.82 (talk) 04:25, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅: . G S Palmer (talk • contribs) 14:27, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 26 January 2015

 * genres = Trance, progressive house, electro house, techno, electronica

Joel Thomas Zimmerman, stage name deadmau5 (pronounced deadmouse), is a Canadian trance producer from Toronto, Ontario, Canada.

SpriteMusic (talk) 21:44, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
 * - You have presented 0 reliable sources for your change, or any explanation for why your change is appropriate. Luke no 94  (tell Luke off here) 21:45, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 February 2015
Disney trademark dispute

Please add "Zimmerman’s attorney, Dina LaPolt, who is based in Los Angeles, finds it strange that Disney is only coming after Deadmau5 now, when he has been using the mau5head for nearly a decade. Not to mention that in 30 other countries Zimmerman already owns rights to the mau5head." after the sentence "Disney officially filed its opposition in September 2014, arguing that the mark is likely to cause confusion because it is "nearly identical in appearance, connotation, and overall commercial impression" to Disney's trademarked iconography of Mickey Mouse."

Please also add "However, in response to this, via his Twitter Deadmau5 stated, “So now @disney is illegally using my work… and CONFUSING people that I’d actually work with these t---s.” after the sentence "Disney argued that it had properly licensed the song, and that there was "no merit to his statement."

Kelly2BB3 (talk) 04:13, 5 February 2015 (UTC)


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Semi-protected edit request on 18 May 2015
Please add Deadmau5's iconic mouse head logo's appearance in the game Diablo 3 to the Game Appearances section. The item in the game Halcyon's Ascent was created in his honor as he is a long time Diablo fan, it's name "Halcyon's Ascent" refers to his original stage-name Halcyon441. You can find more information on it's Diablo Wiki page.

Future6602 (talk) 11:48, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Amortias (T)(C) 17:17, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

A reliable source was posted in the form of the Diablo 3 Wikipedia article for the In-game item. Which links to a summary of a VOD, which you can watch here. In which a talk with a game developer confirms the reference. If it helps, they begin speaking about the item at around 46:15 in the VOD. Kawdie (talk) 17:31, 25 May 2015 (UTC)


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Purrari / Nyanborghini?
Sad that this part is missing in the article. Maybe someone finds the time to write something. Do not miss Nissans reaction ;) 2003:5B:4720:1C00:5C3:A39C:AFBA:FEA3 (talk) 09:34, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

1997
1997 should be 1998. What did he do in 1997? is this just a random year? First, it sayd his years active is 2005-present, then it took the years back to 1995-present, now we're jumping up two years? he does have an album he did 1998-2002, so I'm changing it to reflect this. As for the demo track, well, I once dreamed of being a musician and created one myself in the late 1990's with help from dj Andrew Sarkeesian, who himself had his first DJ demo in 1986, but his dj coreer didn't start untill Madchester, in 1989. so I'm using the same lojic to put it to a known starting year based on an album and not his demo's creation date.

Thanks Glory man United. Eric Ramus=199


 * Why dont you just shift it to 1985 or 1983....he probably had a rattle in is had and was making "music"Starbwoy (talk) 18:43, 3 December 2015 (UTC)

My point exactly. Now some idiot went and threw 1994 in there for no reason other then maybe that's 10 years before they were born? I don't know. I've heard of DJ's starting off young, but what the hell did he do in 1994? Sorry people, messing on keyboards doesn't count. If it did, then I'd have a page that says Years active: 1986-1991.

Eric Ramus — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.195.166.103 (talk) 06:00, 20 December 2015 (UTC)

years active
And what in the name of all holey god/gods or whatever in the flying f*** you want to believe in did our good friend Joel Thomas Zimmerman accomplish in 1994? Change it to 1998, that's the earliest confirmed work he did outside of emos, which don't count. If they did, then the Eric Prydz article for the years active should say 1988-present instead of 2002-present as he did demos and played the piano then. If you want semi-complete to complete demos then 1994-present or 1997-present. If it's not changed to 1998-present then I'm going to put the same reasoning for putting prydz to 1988-present. "oh but Eric, you low life idiot, prydz was only 12 in 1988!" Joel was 13 in 1994, one years f***ing difference guies. OH but what does this Mancunian know right? So, deadmau5 years active: 1998-present, confirmable and excluding demos that would put Eric Prydz at 1988-present if we put deadmau5 to 1995-present. Messing on a keyboard doesn't count there kiddies of wiki. The great man united supporter, Eric Ramus — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.195.166.103 (talk) 02:03, 26 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Where is your third party source to back up your claim ?   Mlpearc  ( open channel ) 02:37, 26 December 2015 (UTC)

Deadmau5's album entitled circa 1998-2002 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.195.166.103 (talk) 02:41, 26 December 2015 (UTC)
 * The link that readers can click-on to see that what they're reading is true.  Mlpearc  ( open channel ) 02:46, 26 December 2015 (UTC)

And where is the source that says he was active in 1994, at the age of 13? Oh yeah, there isn't any. At least I have known Eric Prydz for 20 years and he showed me what he did in 1988, but that's not good enough either. Pluss how do I know that 1994 is not a guestimate of the year deadmau5 started if we include demos which usually we don't. Last time I checked, official album titles "circa 1998-2002" is more reliable then guesses, be they educated or not. So again, point me out a source that says 1994 other then some dipshit child's ramblings about how it'd be so much cooler if deadmau5 was active 5-10 years before he (the kid) was born, or even a kid that thinks that demos and messing on the keyboard and mixing board count. You translate that into PC talk how you will, my point is the same. No source exists for 1994 at all (the demo was 1995 if you go with that) and 1998 is confirmable by the title. PS, it won't let me post external links due to that captcha thing not loading propperly. Eric Ramus — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.195.166.103 (talk) 03:01, 26 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Good luck.  Mlpearc  ( open channel ) 03:15, 26 December 2015 (UTC)

Good luck to you, there's no source that says 1994 at all, I've looked over and over again to no avail. So, 1998-present it is, due to the album Circa 1998-2002, it's the best that we have to go on.

Eric Ramus — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.195.166.103 (talk) 03:21, 26 December 2015 (UTC)

Well? isn't someone going to go and change it to 1998-present or do i have to hound yamaguchi to unprotect the page? Tgere's no source that says 1994 anyway

Eric Ramus — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.195.166.103 (talk) 12:26, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 31 December 2015; Update to present status of Zimmerman's career
Under the "2013-present" category of the career section, add this line as the most recent event.

""" On December 21, 2015, Zimmerman reopened his Twitter account and posted an apology to his Tumblr explaining his disappearance from social media, stating that he was suffering from depression and will be returning to producing music after the new year. """

Additional citation for verification:

SnowdogU77 (talk) 03:24, 31 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Yes check.svg Done Mz7 (talk) 22:03, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 February 2016
The album was preceded by the release of four singles: "Avaritia", "Seeya" (featuring Colleen D'Agostino), "Infra Turbo Pigcart Racer" and "Phantoms Can't Hang". Starting on the week of May 20, 2014, each single was released weekly for a total of four weeks leading up to the release of the album.

(featuring Colleen D'Agostino) should link to Colleen D'Agostino. Colleen's solo Wikipedia page was created after the release of "Seeya," when only the Wiki for her old band, The Material, existed. This should be updated to Colleen's own Wiki.

Edinorogkb (talk) 00:29, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done Thanks for the note. I have removed the piping from the link. Keith D (talk) 01:58, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

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Rocket League
The game, Rocket League, recently received an update which added an "Topper" item (E.g.: Hat) that is the Deadmau5's logo, among other items as well. I was going to add to the article, but I noticed it's currently locked. Gabrielwoj (talk) 21:40, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
 * If you can get the citation for that then it can be added. Apriestofgix (talk) 18:56, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Right from the official patch note. [Here: https://steamcommunity.com/games/252950/announcements/detail/747965062786997982] Gabrielwoj (talk) 00:48, 24 April 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 August 2016
Please add "electro house" to the genres list, because while most of his tracks are progressive, a good number of them are also electro.

Soomeguuy (talk) 03:29, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: as you have not cited reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 10:11, 2 August 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 November 2016
My suggestion: add an image of the original mou5head in the Name Origin section: The original mau5head a.k.a. karmahead https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CxyO3MBUoAQT5q8.jpg

Source: https://twitter.com/deadmau5/status/800671918990966785 XandertjeKnal (talk) 18:07, 21 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. In general, twitter is not considered a reliable source. -- Dane 2007  talk  05:16, 23 November 2016 (UTC)


 * It is indeed a reliable source, it's from the (verified!) Twitter page of deadmau5 himself.
 * Also, he uploaded that picture himself, it's not something that he liked/replied to or something like that. XandertjeKnal (talk) 14:28, 24 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Self-published sources are not usually considered reliable. P p p er y 20:35, 25 November 2016 (UTC)
 * It is acceptable to use self-published sources as sources about themselves, subject to a few conditions (e.g. the claim shouldn't be exceptional). However, I would oppose the image because it is not freely licensed. (One of Wikipedia's goals is to consist of free content that anyone can use, edit, and distribute.) It most likely fails our non-free content criteria since it would not be detrimental to the reader's understanding of the article if we left it out. I have deactivated the edit request for this reason. Mz7 (talk) 04:44, 29 November 2016 (UTC)

years active
i'm going to post this question in regards to an edit I made recently. I had to once again correct the years active section to say 1998-present rather than 1994-present. can someone please address this by either providing a source for 1994 or leaving it at 1998-present? I have looked all over the internet and cannot find (outside of peoples' usernames) anything related to deadmau5 from 1994. I've found twitter conversations where people had 1994 in their usernames and wikimirrors, that's it. can someone please give a source that shows that Joel was active (officially) in 1994 and not just simply fucking around on a keyboard? thanks. PS, I will revert you if you change it to 1994 without providing a source to the year that isn't a wikimirror. thanks Eric 199.101.61.70 (talk) 14:42, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

Knowing my luck, this discussion is going to get archived by some idiot bot before someone mannages to explain why 1994 was there in the first place. Seriously, there's no source at all outside of wikimirrors for that year. I don't count usernames on twitter either. I could get into a discussion with Tiesto on Twitter and use the name cuddlyable1984 and the same conclusion can be drawn that Tiesto was active in 1984. I looked long and hard too, no source at all that says that deadmau5 was officially active in 1994 So bots, don't archive this discussion because i will undo it. I want some explanation for 1994 before i allow it to stand, capiche? Eric Ramus Ground me here 15:52, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Given that discussions aren't archived until 45 days have passed, I don't think you really have to worry much about immediate archiving... as to the date question - if there's no evidence, then all we can use is what we have. If the earliest post says "1998" then we use "1998", and you're well within your rights to revert unsourced changes. Primefac (talk) 23:12, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

I hear you. Perviously however in 2015 when I switched it from saying "1994-present" to "1998-present" someone reverted me then semi-protected the article for a year. Because I was still using an IP at the time I cuoldn't fix it so the mistake remained for a year. That's why I'm trying to raise a discussion here, this way the person who put that in the first place can come forward and say ""this is where igot that!" that's all. Eric Ramus Ground me here 12:47, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

I don't know where the 1994 claim came from, but in November 2010 Deadmau5 posted a link to a 1995 demo of his hosted on his website. (Facebook link, Twitter link) It's not clear whether by "demo" he meant he sent this to labels with the intent of getting it released, or if it was just something he made for fun privately with no intent of a release. Chiafriend12 (talk) 09:13, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

Initials capitalization of deadmau5
Manual_of_Style/Titles says that initials of page article titles and names of people should always be capitalized. I would like to propose that all content containing deadmau5 be changed to Deadmau5. Same goes for his label, mau5trap to Mau5trap. I find it odd that nobody brought it up over the years. Has it been discussed already? - TheMagnificentist (talk) 17:28, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
 * My reading of the relevant MOS sections seems to agree with you. Though if it were up to me, I'd respect the creator's styling for simple things like this, where it is just not using the capital letter. It doesn't really cause in confusion here. Monty  845  04:10, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
 * You mean, other than eBay, iTunes, macOS, and a dozen other pages? If deadmau5 uses a lowercase d, then the article should use a lowercase d. Primefac (talk) 12:56, 23 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Countless Japanese music artists such as Kotoko (musician) (search for "wiki japanese stylized as" for more examples) like to do odd things with capitalization too, but they are rigidly made to follow this rule (which I also think is silly), thus "Kotoko (stylized as KOTOKO..." But this article doesn't have to conform because deadmau5. Inconsistent, but amusing. Rickadams (talk) 17:31, 11 February 2017 (UTC)


 * Template:lowercase title gives examples of articles. Unscintillating (talk) 23:50, 25 December 2016 (UTC)
 * To quote from MOS:LCITEMS: Some individuals do not want their personal names capitalized. In such cases, Wikipedia articles may use lower case variants of personal names if they have regular and established use in reliable third-party sources. In every instance I've seen, deadmau5 is stylized with a lowercase d. The only exception (again, from LCITEMS) is if the word "deadmau5" is the first word in the sentence, in which case it should be capitalized. As for KOTOKO, that falls under WP:ALLCAPS, wherein we display it in Sentence case because the all-caps is purely stylistic (and not, for example, an actual acronym). Primefac (talk) 23:54, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 August 2017
Add “Married” to Kelly Fedoni. Oneofakid (talk) 17:47, 12 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Primefac (talk) 18:03, 12 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Who is Kelly Fedoni? - she doesn't appear in this article - or anywhere else in Wikipedia - Arjayay (talk) 18:06, 12 August 2017 (UTC)

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Removed Minecraft
I cannot find any mention of deadmau5's music in Minecraft. http://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Music

The game has a couple Easter eggs related to him and he played at the first MineCon, but none of his music is actually in the game. It's all C418's music.

http://minecraft.gamepedia.com/index.php?search=deadmau5

EpicWolverine (talk) 01:59, 8 March 2017 (UTC)


 * Although it is not official, C418 stated that deadmau5 helped him make the Minecraft soundtrack album (see: "Living Mice"). However I do not think this is worth noting. Lazz_R 22:09, 2 November 2017 (UTC)

Deadmau5's online course in music production
Under his career (2017-present) please add: "In 2016, Deadmau5 released an online class in electronic music production".

Under external links, please include the following direct link to his online MasterClass: https://www.masterclass.com/classes/deadmau5-teaches-electronic-music-production 199.241.202.179 (talk) 01:52, 2 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Spam advertising. Fyunck(click) (talk) 02:02, 2 March 2018 (UTC)

Requested move 17 August 2018

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the move request was: consensus to move the pages or to remove the lowercase title template as applicable, per the discussion below. Please help convert the way the text is displayed in the infoboxes and bodies of these articles. Dekimasu よ! 01:30, 25 August 2018 (UTC)

– Hello, I have been a fan of deadmau5 for years (apologies for any bias), so I cannot believe I am the one doing this, in all honesty. But, I propose that "deadmau5" must be capitalised and written as Deadmau5 everywhere on Wikipedia, as unsettling as it may look. (This also applies to mau5trap)
 * deadmau5 → Deadmau5
 * deadmau5 discography → Deadmau5 discography
 * List of awards and nominations received by deadmau5 → List of awards and nominations received by Deadmau5
 * mau5trap → Mau5trap
 * mau5trap discography → Mau5trap discography
 * I Remember (deadmau5 and Kaskade song) → I Remember (Deadmau5 and Kaskade song)
 * Seeya (deadmau5 song) → Seeya (Deadmau5 song)
 * Let Go (deadmau5 song) → Let Go (Deadmau5 song)
 * Legendary (deadmau5 and Shotty Horroh song) → Legendary (Deadmau5 and Shotty Horroh song)
 * deadmau5 Circa 1998–2002 → Deadmau5 Circa 1998–2002
 * 5 Years of mau5 → 5 Years of Mau5
 * while(1 Is Less Than 2) → While(1 Is Less Than 2)
 * mau5ville: Level 1 → Mau5ville: Level 1

In a nutshell: all-lowercase is a stylisation, and in almost all cases, things must be written in plain text on Wikipedia. I have, of course, read up on the previous requests, and the points defending the lowercase stylisation included subjects listed in MOS:LCITEMS such as "eBay" and "iTunes"/"iPod" etc. While these can also be interpreted as stylisations, it is important to note that they are not all-lowercase. They contain a capital letter where the "words" start, the lowercase letters that preceed it are prefixes. Also worth noting is that eBay reached a consensus after it was added to the dictionary with that spelling. I think it's important to note that Adidas, despite its consistent lowercase stylisation, is titled with a capital letter, because of how sources refer to it (which I will cover shortly), and because it is gramatically correct.

An MoS guideline supporting my case is MOS:TMCAPS. It states that mixed capitalisation should follow what independent reliable sources write it as, which upon looking at the references section, is very mixed between deadmau5 and Deadmau5, and cannot be helped. TMCAPS states "when sources are mixed, follow the standard formatting and capitalization used for proper names", which as we should all know, is Deadmau5.

I came here to reach a consensus on this off the back of MOS:ALLCAPS which forces subjects stylising their name in capital letters to have it written in proper name text. After moving JES (musician) to Jes (musician), having REZZ moved to Rezz, and rewriting all instances of EDEN (musician) to Eden (musician), I felt it was unjust to darastically change the capitalisation their names due to our rules and leave deadmau5's stylisation untouched. It always sticks out as a sore thumb in lists and categories where he is written in all-lowercase. In my opinion, all-lowercase should be treated equally to ALLCAPS but inverse. Also worth noting is that deadmau5's lowercase stylisation was only implemented circa 2007–08, his early releases did not list his name in lowercase. This results in his discogs entry being listed as Deadmau5, because their rules are that stylisations are only accepted if used consistently. But, of course, our rules here are different.

I am also requesting releases with "deadmau5"/"mau5" in the title (and while(1<2)) be capitalised because titles of works must be written in title case per MOS:TITLECAPS, regardless of what the titles refer to.

I hope my points are understood and a consensus is reached.  Lazz _R  13:54, 17 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Support. Definitely. The editor  whose username is Z0 13:57, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Support. It's pretty much just an edgy styling choice. Should be changed to be capitalised. Micro (Talk) 14:05, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Support all disruptive stylisms. Off with the lot. In ictu oculi (talk) 14:08, 17 August 2018 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

Homophobic/Transphobic Tweets
Today Joel/deadmau5 made some fairly homophobic and blatantly transphobic tweets. Does this constitute another section under "controversies"? https://twitter.com/deadmau5/status/1048642635034972160 https://twitter.com/deadmau5/status/1048662608172208128 https://twitter.com/deadmau5/status/1048664431499116546 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:601:C880:18D:0:0:0:8F9A (talk) 22:22, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
 * They could if several reliable websites report on it. We can't use these tweets as references for a section like this. Maybe in the next few days, we might see some news developments on this, but for now, they can't be added to the wiki page. Micro (Talk) 22:56, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
 * It's been a couple of days, but here are some usable sources for this topic:
 * https://edm.com/news/deadmau5-slushii-autistic-aids-music · https://www.youredm.com/2018/10/10/deadmau5-calls-slushiis-music-aids-music-and-autistic-shit/ · https://www.metroweekly.com/2018/10/deadmau5-apologizes-after-being-accused-of-homophobic-and-transphobic-tweets/ · https://www.youredm.com/2018/10/10/deadmau5-addresses-his-recent-insensitive-tweets-in-statement-admitting-he-needs-help/ · https://edm.com/news/deadmau5-transphobic-remarks-online-argument Micro (Talk) 03:49, 11 October 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 7 November 2018
please add to

2017–present: Stuff I Used to Do and Where's the Drop?

1. add Mau5ville to subheading eg: 2017–present: Stuff I Used to Do, Where's the Drop? and Mau5ville

2. add to end of section:

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In early November 2018, the track list for Zimmerman's upcoming EP, Mau5ville: Level 2 was leaked online. It features a few of Joel's unreleased tracks including Drama Free (feat.Lights) [Formerly known as Midas's Heel] and a remix of it by Chris Lorenzo. It also features tracks GG by deadmau5 and 10.8, a collaboration between deadmau5 and Mr Bill.

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I or another editor may change some details about leaking and release when full details are known

I am very knowledgeable about Joel and have met him. I would love to have an editorship of his article

Sources: https://www.reddit.com/r/deadmau5/comments/9p1drl/mau5ville_level_2_tracklist_updated/

https://www.youredm.com/2018/10/31/mau5ville-level-2-tracklist-revealed/

https://www.edmsauce.com/2018/11/01/deadmau5s-mau5ville-level-2-leak-reveals-tracklist-rare-song/ 210.84.59.172 (talk) 08:22, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: Promotional press about this release being "leaked" online is promotional nonetheless, per: WP:NOTPROMO  Spintendo   09:29, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

BSOD stands for Blue Screen of Death.
BSOD is not 'better sounding on drugs'.

It is a PC computer reference and the acronym is Blue Screen of Death.

https://deadmau5.fandom.com/wiki/BSOD

Not sure if this is where you suggest edits. I am not a wiki user, but it would be worthwhile updating the information in the first paragraph.
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: Per WP:USERG, fandom.com is an unreliable user generated source and, although the current reference is a primary source, it is the only one that suffices.  Lazz _R  21:15, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

Untitled section
Hey! Not sure how to suggest edits, so I'll just do that here. It's worth noting that approximately after a few days to a week of getting banned on Twitch, Joel was unbanned. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nightquaker (talk • contribs) 19:04, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Moved to its own section from Special:Diff/895659176. Primefac (talk) 01:59, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Hello there, can you please provide a reliable source to prove this as notable information?  Lazz _R  21:15, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

More citations needed

 * 1) "1998–2006: Get Scraped and self-released compilations" has no citation
 * 2) "2006–08: Vexillology, Mau5trap, and Random Album Title" has two paragraphs without any citation
 * 3) "2009–11: For Lack of a Better Name and 4×4=12" has two paragraphs without any citation
 * 4) "2012–14: Album Title Goes Here and While(1<2)" needs more citations
 * 5) "2015–16: Depression, return, and W:/2016Album/" needs more citations
 * 6) "2017–present: Stuff I Used to Do, Where's the Drop?, Polar soundtrack and Mau5ville" needs more citations
 * 7) "Name origin" needs more citations
 * 8) "DirtyCircuit" has one sentence without any citation to support

--JuneAugust (talk) 00:35, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

Why isn't dubstep mentioned here?
Doesn't Deadmau5 also do dubstep? The song Raise your Weapon is definitely dubstep, at least the original version is. - WorldQuestioneer (talk) 02:11, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Dubstep isn't one of his main genres, so it falls under the 'electronic' miscellaneous bit. Micro (Talk) 02:14, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

Reference to Octo Expansion (Wikipedia & Inkipedia)
Octo Expansion's reference to deadmau5:

Dedf1sh (SANITIZED OCTOLING DJ) (NAME REFERENCE) Teremoir (talk) 01:43, 2 June 2020 (UTC)Teremoir

Deadmau5 Image Change
Can anybody here please change the image from to ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.248.162.111 (talk) 19:26, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

"Joel Zimmerman" drumloop and Fruity Slicer demo arrangement in FruityLoops 3.5.x (2002), and "deadmau5 - That's Not True" demo track in FL Studio 4.x (2003)
I'd like to put mentions of these in the article or for them to be put in the article, but not sure where the right section for them is...? --143.159.50.67 (talk) 09:24, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I might be missing the point of this request, but I don't think it's appropriate to arbitrarily add every piece of music he's ever done to this article. Primefac (talk) 12:15, 30 December 2020 (UTC)

minecraft
show his minecraft skin. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.34.76.45 (talk) 20:49, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

Artistname pronounciation is wrong
Change Pronounciation from 'deadmouse' to 'dead mou five'. Source: deadmou5 here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSfFyXkC2U4&t=6410s Pingger (talk) 20:40, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
 * ❌. Not quite sure if he's making a joke here or something. We have multiple sources that say "deadmouse" is the right way to say it, so we'll keep that unless new sources report on it. ◢  Ganbaruby!   (talk) 20:47, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
 * In the linked video, he says "deadmouse" ten seconds later, so I think it's a joke. Primefac (talk) 20:48, 25 August 2021 (UTC)

Removal of [ (Better Sounding On Drugs)] in paragraph 2
mau5 and Steve Duda's collaborative acronym stands for Blue Screen Of Death. However they have left this ambiguous and a song of theirs is titled BSOD - BSOD (Blue Screen Of Death - Better Sounding On Drugs). The lyrics of the song repeat "Better, sounding, on drugs". Judging by his nature of using paradox themed titles I believe deadmau5 made the song subversive on purpose. Chauliodusi (talk) 03:09, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
 * If there is a source, it can be changed. Primefac (talk) 12:18, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Two conflicting sources. I propose it should be left as the acronym alone without assuming what it stands for. => "Produced with his pal Steve Duda in 2006, “This Is the Hook” is a house track, Zimmerman says, “about how simple it is to make a house track.” As the drums pound and the synth line chugs, a computer voice leads a guided tour of the cliches on display: “Now it is time for the breakdown….Let’s filter the high-hat….Let’s filter the chords…” Calling them­selves BSOD (an acronym for Blue Screen of Death, a Windows-themed joke), the pair posted the song on Beatport.com, a dance-music version of iTunes, where it went to Number One. “We were like, ‘What the fuck?'” Zimmerman says. “I fig­ured that if I took this more seriously I could actually make something of it.”"  => "B.S.O.D. (which traditionally stands for ‘blue screen of death’, jargon for the dreaded Windows error message; the duo claims the acronym stands for Better Sounding On Drugs)" Chauliodusi (talk) 06:37, 10 February 2022 (UTC)