Talk:Deal or No Deal (American game show)/Archive 1

The Banker's offer depends also on player's psychology?
According to NBC.com, the Banker's offer depends also on player's psychology. Would that make sense? If a player seems to be able to be tempted into accepting a deal, should the banker make a smaller-than-usual offer? Xiner 02:52, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

That's why players are asked to submit a videotape as well as a 10-page application - it's to find the player's "pyschological pressure points". Take the episode where the offer was $44,000 and a pony. The Banker wanted to force the player to quit and used the information the player provided in his "audition package" to create a situation where the player would have almost no choice but to take the deal. Who's going to disappoint their daughter on national television? Same with the show flying relatives in or having them "mysteriously call" - it's applied pyschology. Spotts1701 06:16, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

But I don't think it's working too good. There was this one lady who wanted this certain type of Harley-Davidson bike and the bank offered her the bike she wanted plus $99,000 but she said no deal. --Tuspm 16:49, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Doesn't that make sense, Tuspm? I don't know the exact models the banker uses, but it always makes an offer at a disadvantage to the contestant.  It may seem like a good deal to you, but the banker counts on something that says she will decline that offer in favor of chances that are unfavorable to her, namely,  a psychological profile. (Warrenreport 06:12, 23 March 2007 (UTC))

I'm sure it also depends a bit on risk/reward. For example, if .01 and $1M are on the board, I'd accept an offer for $480k even though it's below the expected value of my case. I'm paying to eliminate the risk to me. -anonymous6494 03:02, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Week 2 values
I replaced the set of superscripts with a table, since it makes the progression of values much clearer. Stismail 17:57, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Data?
Does anyone have data of the Banker's offers from various episodes? I'm interested in figuring out the algorithm. I've only kept track of the last contestant from March 6, 2006:

24.90.86.244 05:11, 7 March 2006 (UTC)


 * I'd definitely not be able to figure out the algorithm, which obviously depends on how far into the game a player is, the variance of the remaining values and the expected winning. I'm also pretty certain the show expects to lose more than it needs to, as its offers are almost invariably lower than the fair value of the game. Xiner 14:56, 7 March 2006 (UTC)


 * I think the values are lower as an incentive for players to keep playing otherwise the show would be "boring," but later it gets closer so that they won't lose money. I'm not even sure if the show is fair and not rigged. 70.111.251.203 02:15, 8 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Oh, I totally agree that they want to keep people playing. They have to close the odds later on or it would appear very unfair (imagine if they offered $100K when the possibilities were $0 and $300K). That's why I added the TBD's in the Stats section of the article, hoping that someone'd show me what the show's actually paying out, but so far no one's found the time to do so. ;-) Xiner 03:08, 8 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Here’s the info from the US games played through March 24, from the most recent through the first. The data posted above was from game 15.


 * Game 24, Lisa Fournier: picked case 9 holding $5. Took: deal.
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! Opened !! Deal !! Expected value !! Diff
 * $25K, $75, $500, $1, $750, $10 || $26K || $170K || -$144K
 * $100K, $75K, $500K, $50, $750K || $19K || $131K || -$112K
 * $400K, $25, $50K, $1M || $15K || $47K || -$32K
 * $.01, $5K, $10K || $38K || $63K || -$25K
 * $1K, $300K || $20K || $34K || -$14K
 * $200K || $100 || $201 || -$101
 * $200 || $150 || $201 || -$51
 * $300 || $125 || $168 || -$43
 * $400 || $50 || $53 || -$3
 * }
 * $200K || $100 || $201 || -$101
 * $200 || $150 || $201 || -$51
 * $300 || $125 || $168 || -$43
 * $400 || $50 || $53 || -$3
 * }
 * $300 || $125 || $168 || -$43
 * $400 || $50 || $53 || -$3
 * }
 * }


 * Game 23, Brett "Kurtzy" Kurtz: picked case 21 holding $5. Took: deal.
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! Opened !! Deal !! Expected value !! Diff
 * $750, $.01, $50, $10K, $400K, $400 || $19K || $150K || -$131K
 * $25, $1M, $1, $500, $200K || $28K || $120K || -$92K
 * $1K, $25K, $750K, $50K || $34K || $89K || -$55K
 * $100K, $75, $75K || $55K || $101K || -$46K
 * $100, $500K || $34K || $51K || -$17K
 * $5K || $52K || $60K || -$8K
 * $300 || $76K || $75K || $1K
 * $300K || $50 || $72 || -$22
 * $200 || $8 || $8 || 0
 * }
 * $5K || $52K || $60K || -$8K
 * $300 || $76K || $75K || $1K
 * $300K || $50 || $72 || -$22
 * $200 || $8 || $8 || 0
 * }
 * $300K || $50 || $72 || -$22
 * $200 || $8 || $8 || 0
 * }
 * }


 * Game 22, Lt. Janie Colosso: picked case 11 holding $750. Took: case.
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! Opened !! Deal !! Expected value !! Diff
 * $100K, $50K, $.01, $10K, $75K, $300K || $9K || $144K || -$135K
 * $5, $5K, $400K, $1M, $500K || $7K || $65K || -$58K
 * $1K, $25, $200K, $10 || $16K || $71K || -$55K
 * $50, $25K, $750K || $250 || $291 || -$41
 * $200, $1 || $300 || $354 || -$54
 * $300 || $350 || $365 || -$15
 * $100 || $400 || $431 || -$31
 * $400 || $450 || $442 || $8
 * $75 || $650 || $625 || $25
 * }
 * $300 || $350 || $365 || -$15
 * $100 || $400 || $431 || -$31
 * $400 || $450 || $442 || $8
 * $75 || $650 || $625 || $25
 * }
 * $400 || $450 || $442 || $8
 * $75 || $650 || $625 || $25
 * }
 * }


 * Game 21, Brett Sloan: picked case 17 holding $500K. Took: deal.
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! Opened !! Deal !! Expected value !! Diff
 * $750, $1K, $25K, $5, $50, $1 || $26K || $170K || -$144K
 * $75K, $400K, $10K, $100K, $10 || $48K || $187K || -$139K
 * $100, $25, $200, $750K || $39K || $187K || -$148K
 * $75, $50K, $500 || $90K || $251K || -$161K
 * $300, $5K || $179K || $333K || -$154K
 * $300K || $199K || $340K || -$141K
 * $1M || $109K || $175K || -$66K
 * }
 * $300, $5K || $179K || $333K || -$154K
 * $300K || $199K || $340K || -$141K
 * $1M || $109K || $175K || -$66K
 * }
 * $1M || $109K || $175K || -$66K
 * }
 * }


 * Game 20, Sgt. Horston Bowen: picked case 3 holding $400K. Took: deal.
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! Opened !! Deal !! Expected value !! Diff
 * $500, $75, $75K, $1M, $1K, $50K || $13K || $115K || -$102K
 * $750, $10K, $300, $200, $5K || $37K || $152K || -$115K
 * $.01, $400, $25K, $750K || $52K || $136K || -$84K
 * $100, $5, $500K || $88K || $125K || -$37K
 * $100K, $10 || $109K || $150K || -$41K
 * $25 || $164K || $180K || -$16K
 * $50 || $221K || $225K || -$4K
 * }
 * $100K, $10 || $109K || $150K || -$41K
 * $25 || $164K || $180K || -$16K
 * $50 || $221K || $225K || -$4K
 * }
 * $50 || $221K || $225K || -$4K
 * }
 * }


 * Game 19, Cathy "Spam Queen" Hamm: picked case 11 holding $5K. Took: case.
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! Opened !! Deal !! Expected value !! Diff
 * $25, $100, $5, $400, $10, $25K || $22K || $170K || -$148K
 * $1, $200K, $50, $10K, $75 || $71K || $212K || -$141K
 * $400K, $500, $300, $200 || $187K || $253K || -$66K
 * $500K, $750K, $100K || $107K || $179K || -$72K
 * $50K, $300K || $95K || $180K || -$85K
 * $750 || $123K || $216K || -$93K
 * $1M || $19K || $20K || -$1K
 * $75K || $2K || $2K || 0
 * $1K || $3K || $3K || -$200
 * }
 * $750 || $123K || $216K || -$93K
 * $1M || $19K || $20K || -$1K
 * $75K || $2K || $2K || 0
 * $1K || $3K || $3K || -$200
 * }
 * $75K || $2K || $2K || 0
 * $1K || $3K || $3K || -$200
 * }
 * }


 * Game 18, Bryan Thompson: picked case 17 holding $50K. Took: deal.
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! Opened !! Deal !! Expected value !! Diff
 * $100, $400K, $400, $75K, $25, $100K || $15K || $142K || -$127K
 * $300, $25K, $300K, $.01, $1 || $37K || $168K || -$131K
 * $750, $10K, $750K, $10 || $66K || $160K || -$94K
 * $200K, $1K, $5 || $110K || $194K || -$84K
 * $5K, $50 || $198K || $258K || -$60K
 * $1M || $85K || $110K || -$25K
 * $75 || $139K || $138K || $1K
 * $200 || $202K || $184K || $18K
 * }
 * $5K, $50 || $198K || $258K || -$60K
 * $1M || $85K || $110K || -$25K
 * $75 || $139K || $138K || $1K
 * $200 || $202K || $184K || $18K
 * }
 * $200 || $202K || $184K || $18K
 * }
 * }


 * Game 17, Eric Paulson: picked case 21 holding $.01. Took: deal.
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! Opened !! Deal !! Expected value !! Diff
 * $100, $500, $500K, $400, $10K, $25 || $19K || $145K || -$126K
 * $25K, $10, $75K, $5K, $200 || $35K || $187K || -$152K
 * $1K, $300, $5, $1 || $126K || $255K || -$129K
 * $1M, $50, $100K || $98K || $213K || -$115K
 * $300K, $400K || $60K || $167K || -$107K
 * $200K || $48K || $160K || -$112K
 * $750K || $14K || $13K || $1K
 * $75 || $19K || $17K || $2K
 * }
 * $300K, $400K || $60K || $167K || -$107K
 * $200K || $48K || $160K || -$112K
 * $750K || $14K || $13K || $1K
 * $75 || $19K || $17K || $2K
 * }
 * $75 || $19K || $17K || $2K
 * }
 * }


 * Game 16, Kim Woods: picked case 21 holding $5K. Took: deal.
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! Opened !! Deal !! Expected value !! Diff
 * $300, $100, $1K, $10, $500K, $5 || $21K || $146K || -$125K
 * $75K, $300K, $400, $1M, $25K || $17K || $101K || -$84K
 * $100K, $75, $500, $200 || $33K || $129K || -$96K
 * $10K, $25, $400K || $56K || $126K || -$70K
 * $.01, $50K || $82K || $159K || -$77K
 * $750K || $37K || $41K || -$4K
 * $1 || $50K || $51K || -$1K
 * }
 * $.01, $50K || $82K || $159K || -$77K
 * $750K || $37K || $41K || -$4K
 * $1 || $50K || $51K || -$1K
 * }
 * $1 || $50K || $51K || -$1K
 * }
 * }


 * Game 15, Patrick "Monty" Meritato: picked case 8 holding $25K. Took: case.
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! Opened !! Deal !! Expected value !! Diff
 * $.01, $1, $400K, $25, $500, $10 || $25K || $151K || -$126K
 * $75, $750K, $300, $200K, $500K || $15K || $105K || -$90K
 * $1M, $400, $750, $5 || $21K || $51K || -$30K
 * $300K, $1K, $10K || $13K || $32K || -$19K
 * $50, $200 || $30K || $43K || -$13K
 * $100K || $16K || $31K || -$15K
 * $75K || $12K || $20K || -$8K
 * $100 || $24K || $27K || -$3K
 * $5K || $38K || $38K || 0
 * }
 * $100K || $16K || $31K || -$15K
 * $75K || $12K || $20K || -$8K
 * $100 || $24K || $27K || -$3K
 * $5K || $38K || $38K || 0
 * }
 * $100 || $24K || $27K || -$3K
 * $5K || $38K || $38K || 0
 * }
 * }


 * Game 14, Joe Pacheco: picked case 16 holding $25. Took: deal.
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! Opened !! Deal !! Expected value !! Diff
 * $10, $750, $400K, $100K, $75, $100 || $32K || $283K || -$251K
 * $400, $3M, $.03, $5, $250K || $21K || $161K || -$140K
 * $200, $300, $500, $1M || $44K || $129K || -$85K
 * $1, $50K, $25K || $92K || $168K || -$76K
 * $1K, $500K || $73K || $140K || -$67K
 * $750K || $9K || $18K || -$9K
 * $50 || $23K || $23K || 0
 * $5K || $28K || $28K || 0
 * $75K || $5K || $5K || 0
 * }
 * $750K || $9K || $18K || -$9K
 * $50 || $23K || $23K || 0
 * $5K || $28K || $28K || 0
 * $75K || $5K || $5K || 0
 * }
 * $5K || $28K || $28K || 0
 * $75K || $5K || $5K || 0
 * }
 * }


 * Game 13, Becky Venable: picked case 7 holding $75. Took: deal.
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! Opened !! Deal !! Expected value !! Diff
 * $25K, $75K, $1, $750, $400K, $5 || $26K || $258K || -$232K
 * $10, $300, $100, $750K, $.01 || $49K || $294K || -$245K
 * $400, $100K, $500, $1K || $101K || $392K || -$291K
 * $25, $50, $3M || $74K || $227K || -$153K
 * $1M, $200 || $66K || $136K || -$70K
 * $10K || $87K || $161K || -$74K
 * $500K || $65K || $76K || -$11K
 * $50K || $85K || $85K || 0
 * }
 * $1M, $200 || $66K || $136K || -$70K
 * $10K || $87K || $161K || -$74K
 * $500K || $65K || $76K || -$11K
 * $50K || $85K || $85K || 0
 * }
 * $50K || $85K || $85K || 0
 * }
 * }


 * Game 12, Sherman Mitchell: picked case 14 holding $300. Took: deal.
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! Opened !! Deal !! Expected value !! Diff
 * $10, $75K, $75, $750, $1K, $.01 || $23K || $230K || -$207K
 * $200K, $1M, $100, $1, $25 || $39K || $226K || -$187K
 * $400K, $2M, $100K, $200 || $31K || $81K || -$50K
 * $10K, $25K, $50K || $55K || $101K || -$46K
 * $500, $5K || $93K || $133K || -$40K
 * $5 || $150K || $160K || -$10K
 * $300K || $106K || $125K || -$19K
 * $50 || $167K || $167K || 0
 * $400 || $250K || $250K || 0
 * }
 * $5 || $150K || $160K || -$10K
 * $300K || $106K || $125K || -$19K
 * $50 || $167K || $167K || 0
 * $400 || $250K || $250K || 0
 * }
 * $50 || $167K || $167K || 0
 * $400 || $250K || $250K || 0
 * }
 * }


 * Game 11, Cyndi Pridgen: picked case 9 holding $75. Took: deal.
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! Opened !! Deal !! Expected value !! Diff
 * $25, $500K, $.01, $10K, $300, $500 || $24K || $208K || -$184K
 * $50, $25K, $200K, $300K, $5K || $41K || $242K || -$201K
 * $400, $100, $10, $400K || $82K || $293K || -$211K
 * $200, $1M, $100K || $53K || $266K || -$213K
 * $750, $1 || $120K || $354K || -$234K
 * $1K || $250K || $425K || -$175K
 * $50K || $407K || $519K || -$112K
 * }
 * $750, $1 || $120K || $354K || -$234K
 * $1K || $250K || $425K || -$175K
 * $50K || $407K || $519K || -$112K
 * }
 * $50K || $407K || $519K || -$112K
 * }
 * }


 * Game 10, Mark Adrian: picked case 13 holding $50. Took: deal.
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! Opened !! Deal !! Expected value !! Diff
 * $400, $500K, $500, $100, $75K, $1 || $19K || $180K || -$161K
 * $200, $.01, $1M, $750, $200K || $25K || $159K || -$134K
 * $5K, $400K, $10, $25K || $39K || $178K || -$139K
 * $100K, $10K, $75 || $76K || $231K || -$155K
 * $5, $50K || $140K || $300K || -$160K
 * $2M || $41K || $60K || -$19K
 * $300 || $64K || $75K || -$11K
 * }
 * $5, $50K || $140K || $300K || -$160K
 * $2M || $41K || $60K || -$19K
 * $300 || $64K || $75K || -$11K
 * }
 * $300 || $64K || $75K || -$11K
 * }
 * }


 * Game 9, Cheryl Jackson: picked case 16 holding $5. Took: case.
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! Opened !! Deal !! Expected value !! Diff
 * $25K, $75, $10K, $400K, $300, $100 || $10K || $149K || -$139K
 * $100K, $75K, $10, $200K, $25 || $31K || $174K || -$143K
 * $500K, $1K, $.01, $50 || $48K || $192K || -$144K
 * $1M, $50K, $500 || $39K || $132K || -$93K
 * $400, $5K || $66K || $175K || -$109K
 * $750 || $97K || $210K || -$113K
 * $200 || $172K || $263K || -$91K
 * $750K || $80K || $100K || -$20K
 * $300K || $2 || $3 || -$1
 * }
 * $750 || $97K || $210K || -$113K
 * $200 || $172K || $263K || -$91K
 * $750K || $80K || $100K || -$20K
 * $300K || $2 || $3 || -$1
 * }
 * $750K || $80K || $100K || -$20K
 * $300K || $2 || $3 || -$1
 * }
 * }


 * Game 8, Peter Montesanti: picked case 24 holding $25. Took: deal.
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! Opened !! Deal !! Expected value !! Diff
 * $1, $25K, $75K, $.01, $750, $400K || $17K || $146K || -$129K
 * $300, $5, $200, $1M, $50 || $22K || $128K || -$106K
 * $100K, $5K, $200K, $1K || $35K || $146K || -$111K
 * $500, $300K, $50K || $68K || $158K || -$90K
 * $10K, $400 || $125K || $208K || -$83K
 * $75 || $199K || $250K || -$51K
 * $10 || $279K || $313K || -$34K
 * $100 || $359K || $417K || -$58K
 * }
 * $10K, $400 || $125K || $208K || -$83K
 * $75 || $199K || $250K || -$51K
 * $10 || $279K || $313K || -$34K
 * $100 || $359K || $417K || -$58K
 * }
 * $100 || $359K || $417K || -$58K
 * }
 * }


 * Game 7, Janette Beverly: picked case 3 holding $75K. Took: case.
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! Opened !! Deal !! Expected value !! Diff
 * $300K, $1M, $500K, $25K, $5, $25 || $4K || $80K || -$76K
 * $500, $5K, $200K, $400K, $1K || $13K || $66K || -$53K
 * $300, $100, $.01, $750K || $9K || $21K || -$12K
 * $200, $50, $10K || $18K || $28K || -$10K
 * $750, $10 || $26K || $38K || -$12K
 * $50K || $22K || $35K || -$13K
 * $1 || $40K || $44K || -$4K
 * $400 || $55K || $58K || -$3K
 * $75 || $85K || $88K || -$3K
 * }
 * $50K || $22K || $35K || -$13K
 * $1 || $40K || $44K || -$4K
 * $400 || $55K || $58K || -$3K
 * $75 || $85K || $88K || -$3K
 * }
 * $400 || $55K || $58K || -$3K
 * $75 || $85K || $88K || -$3K
 * }
 * }


 * Game 6, Venus Bernardo: picked case 26 holding $50K. Took: deal.
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! Opened !! Deal !! Expected value !! Diff
 * $300K, $5, $.01, $200K, $100, $500K || $9K || $121K || -$112K
 * $25K, $100K, $500, $750, $400K || $19K || $126K || -$107K
 * $1K, $1M, $750K, $75 || $12K || $13K || -$1K
 * $50, $400, $10K || $15K || $16K || -$1K
 * $5K, $300 || $19K || $21K || -$2K
 * $1 || $23K || $25K || -$2K
 * $10 || $28K || $31K || -$3K
 * $25 || $35K || $42K || -$7K
 * $75K || $23K || $25K || -$2K
 * }
 * $1 || $23K || $25K || -$2K
 * $10 || $28K || $31K || -$3K
 * $25 || $35K || $42K || -$7K
 * $75K || $23K || $25K || -$2K
 * }
 * $25 || $35K || $42K || -$7K
 * $75K || $23K || $25K || -$2K
 * }
 * }


 * Game 5, Traci Wilkerson: picked case 18 holding $200. Took: deal.
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! Opened !! Deal !! Expected value !! Diff
 * $300K, $500, $.01, $75K, $750, $10K || $9K || $152K || -$143K
 * $200K, $50K, $100K, $400, $1 || $28K || $179K || -$151K
 * $10, $5K, $400K, $5 || $58K || $207K || -$149K
 * $750K, $1K, $75 || $75K || $191K || -$116K
 * $100, $25K || $113K || $250K || -$137K
 * $25 || $199K || $300K || -$101K
 * $300 || $275K || $375K || -$100K
 * $500K || $267K || $333K || -$66K
 * }
 * $100, $25K || $113K || $250K || -$137K
 * $25 || $199K || $300K || -$101K
 * $300 || $275K || $375K || -$100K
 * $500K || $267K || $333K || -$66K
 * }
 * $500K || $267K || $333K || -$66K
 * }
 * }


 * Game 4, Daryl Johnson: picked case 6 holding $50. Took: deal.
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! Opened !! Deal !! Expected value !! Diff
 * $500, $400, $.01, $300K, $750K, $25 || $11K || $118K || -$107K
 * $10, $1M, $750, $1, $100K || $19K || $84K || -$65K
 * $1K, $25K, $75, $75K || $37K || $106K || -$69K
 * $50K, $400K, $300 || $32K || $89K || -$57K
 * $100, $500K || $25K || $36K || -$11K
 * $10K || $37K || $41K || -$4K
 * $5K || $50K || $50K || 0
 * $200 || $67K || $67K || 0
 * $5 || $99K || $100K || -$1K
 * }
 * $10K || $37K || $41K || -$4K
 * $5K || $50K || $50K || 0
 * $200 || $67K || $67K || 0
 * $5 || $99K || $100K || -$1K
 * }
 * $200 || $67K || $67K || 0
 * $5 || $99K || $100K || -$1K
 * }
 * }


 * Game 3, Amy Dittbrenner: picked case 8 holding $10. Took: deal.
 * {| border="1" cellpadding="2"

! Opened !! Deal !! Expected value !! Diff
 * $100K, $300, $750, $200K, $50K, $10K || $13K || $153K || -$140K
 * $50, $1K, $75K, $25K, $750K || $27K || $147K || -$120K
 * $1, $400K, $100, $.01 || $48K || $164K || -$116K
 * $25, $300K, $400 || $76K || $188K || -$112K
 * $200, $5 || $124K || $251K || -$127K
 * $500K || $121K || $201K || -$80K
 * $500 || $201K || $251K || -$50K
 * }
 * $200, $5 || $124K || $251K || -$127K
 * $500K || $121K || $201K || -$80K
 * $500 || $201K || $251K || -$50K
 * }
 * $500 || $201K || $251K || -$50K
 * }
 * }


 * Game 2, Jason Vittorini: picked case 2 holding $10K. Took: deal.
 * {| border="1" cellpadding="2"

! Opened !! Deal !! Expected value !! Diff
 * $200, $200K, $25, $50K, $25K, $750K || $7K || $120K || -$113K
 * $75K, $100K, $1M, $400, $.01 || $19K || $81K || -$62K
 * $1K, $100, $50, $75 || $36K || $111K || -$75K
 * $5, $500, $10 || $63K || $152K || -$89K
 * $5K, $1 || $99K || $202K || -$103K
 * $300 || $162K || $242K || -$80K
 * $750 || $240K || $303K || -$63K
 * $500K || $189K || $237K || -$48K
 * }
 * $5K, $1 || $99K || $202K || -$103K
 * $300 || $162K || $242K || -$80K
 * $750 || $240K || $303K || -$63K
 * $500K || $189K || $237K || -$48K
 * }
 * $500K || $189K || $237K || -$48K
 * }
 * }


 * Game 1, Karen Vann: picked case 14 holding $500. Took: deal.
 * {| border="1" cellpadding="2"

! Opened !! Deal !! Expected value !! Diff
 * $25, $.01, $200, $5, $400, $5K || $21K || $171K || -$150K
 * $750K, $1M, $100, $750, $400K || $37K || $84K || -$47K
 * $50, $10, $100K, $75K || $53K || $99K || -$46K
 * $1K, $1, $200K || $77K || $111K || -$34K
 * $10K, $300K || $63K || $96K || -$33K
 * $25K || $90K || $110K || -$20K
 * $300 || $138K || $138K || 0
 * $500K || $17K || $17K || 0
 * $75 || $25K || $25K || 0
 * }
 * Rip 07:10, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
 * $25K || $90K || $110K || -$20K
 * $300 || $138K || $138K || 0
 * $500K || $17K || $17K || 0
 * $75 || $25K || $25K || 0
 * }
 * Rip 07:10, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
 * $75 || $25K || $25K || 0
 * }
 * Rip 07:10, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

The white phone.
I recently attended an episode of Deal or No Deal! The air date is slated for May 5...Any way, I got to ask Howie a question before shooting began. The question I asked was "Does the phone really work?" All things considered it seemed like a good question, except Howie replied..."What, do you think I talk to myself down here? Of course, the phone really works." So there's an interesting anecdote. I figured it was just a prop, but I guess the studio spent some extra $$$ on that contemporary white wireless telephone...


 * Well, duh the phone works! If it didn't, how would Howie know the offer? Did you think he made up a price at the top of his head? I don't think so! --Tuspm 16:46, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Where can I get that white phone?

Episode Summaries
Most of the episode blurbs we have on here are rather non-notable. There has to be a better way to present the info from each individual episode - perhaps in their own article? As it is right now, the whole article is long, with too much emphasis in individual episodes.Letoofdune 00:07, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

actually, i was just thinking about that. i had a strange idea hit me... is there some sort of wiki-calendar out there? like, possibly some sort of chart that's set up like a calendar, and for the days in which the show airs, a short blurb could be put in that calendar space? i'm not sure if it would reduce very much space, but it was a thought... Art Begotti 01:07, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

Offer calculations?
How exactly is the amount of the offer calculated? I've wondered that since the first episode.Ianthegecko 03:58, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

the offer is usually based around the average of the remaining values (usually rounded to the nearest $1000), then the offer might go up or down from there, depending on if the player is more or less likely to take the offer. if the player's stuck with a really high and really low value left, the banker will usually offer way below the average, because most players won't take the risk. if it's down to two close values, the banker usually goes above, since the player would usually take the final risk. this is just my take on the calculations, based on other readings and observances. so obviously, this isn't final. Art Begotti 14:29, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

April 26 2006 episode
There seems to be some dispute as to what case LaKeesa Bright initially chose (the case which contained the $1,000,000). I was under the impression it was 17, someone else believes it was 25. Someone could confirm and correct this, as it is a milestone for the show. Crazdgamer 03:56, 27 April 2006 (UTC)


 * It was 17. I saw the repeat on CNBC. Also, the spelling was "LaKissa," according to the banners on the show and this . By the way, we're eventually going to have to move all the episode descriptions to a separate article. Casey Abell 14:54, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

$8 winner
Just as a clarification...is the $8 winner that guy who kept on talking about Texas and how not to mess with it? Thanks...(oh, and if he is indeed the $8 winner, perhaps that would be an interesting thing to add)


 * Unfortunately, I hadn't started watching the show when that happened, but an $8 deal is HILARIOUS. I love watching the greedy people lose. VelvetKevorkian 01:21, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Episode summaries are completely out of control
Well, they are. We need to decide what to do about this soon - too many anony editors out there who think that EVERY episode is notable. The section needs to be hacksawed. Lambertman 16:08, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
 * No, we just need a separate article for episode summaries. Something like List of Desperate Housewives episodes. In fact, the formatting from that article could be used, except I doubt images from each episode are available, and there wouldn't be much need for Title, Writer(s) or Director columns. I definitely think we should keep all the information for the various episodes. The show's summer hiatus might be a good time to split off the list of episodes article. Casey Abell 17:01, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
 * i agree. i mean, there are other shows that have completely separate articles for individual episodes. (for example, The Office.) i don't see any harm in one page dedicated to all of the episodes (or one page per season). if anything, i think the records and statistics part of the article could use a clean-up... for example, i think it's kinda unnecessary to state that the highest and lowest amounts in a contestant's case were one cent and one million dollars... as they are usually the highest and lowest amounts possible. (disregarding specials, of course.) Art Begotti 23:17, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
 * List of Deal or No Deal episodes now looks pretty good. Format issues have been cleared up, the summaries are comprehensive, there's even a photo of Donald Trump! Casey Abell 18:51, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Catch phrases
As a compromise I've moved the four catch phrase items to the "Trivia" section. It's not necessary to dogmatize that catch phrases must be put in Wikiquote. Many readers won't even know what Wikiquote is. A brief, reasonable selection of catch phrases is acceptable in the main article, regardless of what gets put into Wikiquote. Casey Abell 19:36, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Lost the Point
recently, the first bullet in the trivia section was deleted. i had written that... partly... the original, which i had written was as follows:

"A commercial for the second week-long special illustrated a first-person simulation of what it's like to be a contestant on Deal or No Deal. Scenes included glancing at the scoreboard, the models, the family members in the audience, and finally at Howie Mandel. However, the commercial contained some continuity errors. One was that the scoreboard showed that a number of boxes had been opened already, but all 26 models were still on stage. Also, the bank offer shown was too large for the amounts of money left in play."

when i wrote that originally, my intent was to point out the ironic flaws in the commercial. then, someone along the line added to it, somewhat destroying the point of the paragraph. it became more about the whole commercial than the errors in the commercial. the revision, before it was deleted (i added italics to show what was added):

"A commercial for the second week-long special illustrated a first-person simulation of what it's like to be a contestant on Deal or No Deal. Scenes included glancing at the scoreboard, the flashing red button (only to press if you make the deal), the models, the mysterious banker, the family members in the audience, and finally at Howie Mandel. However, the commercial contained some continuity errors. One was that the scoreboard showed that a number of boxes had been opened already (and the current bank offer), but all 26 models were still on stage, including Donna Feldman, who the speakable contestant thought she had a penny in her case. Also, the bank offer shown was too large for the amounts of money left in play. ''It ends with Mandel asking the question: "Deal... or No Deal?"''"

it irritated me for some time, but i successfully managed to procrastinate mentioning it. now, the bullet was removed by Lambertman, calling it "un-notable trivia". and i wholly agree... but it wasn't meant to be that way.

forgive me for being stubborn and appealing this, but would you consider restoring this bit of trivia, given that the original form is used? i feel that the errant commercial is worth some note, but obviously not the whole commercial.Art Begotti 02:02, 10 July 2006 (UTC)


 * I restored the original text. It's a harmless bit of trivia, a little humor about the vagaries of promos. Down the road we might want to split off a separate article on trivia and pop culture references about the show, especially if it lasts for several seasons. A separate article worked well for the episode descriptions. Casey Abell 12:56, 10 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Fair enough. I hated it because those later additions just the very bit of child-fan-babble that drives me up the wall (lookie I know the models name omg i rite gud), but I don't have a problem with your original text. Lambertman 23:41, 12 July 2006 (UTC)


 * i've learned my lesson... don't procrastinate. not now at least. Art Begotti 02:32, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Season 2 premiere amounts?
Can anybody confirm the $7,500,000 grand prize amount shown in the article? I've never heard of it anywhere but here and I'm doubting its accuracy. (Edit: sorry for not IDing myself earlier.) Macnbc 03:51, 13 July 2006 (UTC)


 * You're not the only one, mysterious stranger. I think an edit is in order. Lambertman 23:42, 12 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Okay, now that Mike Klauss' audience report confirms that there's no $7.5 million grand prize, I guess we can put that to rest. -- CRiyl 08:05, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

I'd like to suggest changing the "increased value" tables to column format, like so (it's easier to understand, since it mirrors the way the values appear on TV):

I didn't put this one up since it'd be confusing to have one table go horizontal and the other vertical; once I have the chance to convert the other one, I'll change both. Samer 06:41, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Wikify tag?
Am I missing something? This article already has sections, subsections, gazillions of internal and external links, an infobox, captioned images, bulleted lists, and the template for other versions of the show. How are we supposed to wikify it any more? Casey Abell 14:14, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
 * This edit justifies a wikify tag? Why didn't LuciferMorgan just make the small change himself? Oh, well. Tempest. Teapot. Casey Abell 16:52, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Records confusion
It's started to become a bit confusing which records are from episodes with the regular top prize of $1,000,000 and which are from special episodes with a higher top prize, like the later 1:30 of the season 2 premiere. --Libertyernie2 21:41, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

How do they choose a Player???
Hiya Americans, I a "Dumb" british and i really like the look of the show. But how do they pick a player to play? Duff12 14:57, 25 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Not a dumb question at all. They have tryouts well beforehand where they interview the potential contestants (and apparently pick the craziest ones they can find). They may act excited when they're "called out of the audience", but it's been planned well in advance that they'd be playing that day. Lambertman 15:01, 25 September 2006 (UTC)


 * You can either submit a 5-minute videotape of yourself, your potential supporters, etc., along with an 11-page application; OR try out at an "open casting call" (such as the one in Chicago I'm going to tomorrow). --Orange Mike 16:42, 29 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Thank-you Duff12 16:27, 26 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Lol I think this American version is so cheesy! Kinda random telling you this but the Aussie version is the best - they have the audience sit in 6 blocks, then choose a block at random plus one extra player.  Then allhave to answer 3 trivia questions and one person is chosen randomly from those who get all 3 correct.  That person plays the game - the others open the suitcases.  That's right - the models don't figure heavily.  But every time a suitcase is opened the person opening it gets to guess what is in the case - and they get $1,000 bucks if they're right!  Much more fun than the American version! --  PageantUpdater  •  talk  |  contribs  |  esperanza  21:44, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

Deletion request for Deal or No Deal, Season 1 (US)
The first season episode-list article has been put up for deletion. I'll save the contents onto my hard drive, just in case the material gets the ax. I'd advise anybody else who's interested in the show's record to do the same. By the way, I voted keep in the AfD, as you might expect. Very early returns are 2-2. An oddity: there's no AfD for Deal or No Deal, Season 2 (US), though I suppose that will be forthcoming if the first AfD succeeds. I'll save that article onto my hard drive, too. Casey Abell 22:47, 20 November 2006 (UTC)


 * I'm confused; I thought that info was going over to TVIV, but I'm not finding anything over there. Lambertman 18:58, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Howard Stern wants to host
I think that Howard wants to host the syndicated version. Unless they give him the hosting job, I think we'll keep getting various scribbles in the Syndicated versions part of the text. Like about the Wendy the Retard stuff. Maybe it's juvenile, but then the Stern show and this one aren't too serious ...

Actually, he might make a good host of DoND. And a 'raunchy' version could be a lot of fun, say, on the Playboy channel! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Alaney2k (talk • contribs) 16:38, 5 December 2006 (UTC).

removal to tviv
why have you removed the dond episodes if they are not even being copied to tviv? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.22.12.189 (talk) 03:40, 14 December 2006 (UTC).

 Markov Chain

Statistical Models -- Aren't the probabilities in this show determined by a Markov chain? Can someone with more statistical training than me please explain? Thank you.

Moved models info to List of Deal or No Deal models (US)
I've decided to be bold and shorten this article considerably. In moving the models to their own article, this bit of info - the gameplay from the first Miss USA episode - has no logical home. I'm saving it here in case someone thinks they can do something with it. Lambertman 15:47, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

The contestant, Brian Kennedy, a professional clown, proposed to his girlfriend on the air before mutually agreeing to reject a $160,000 deal. Howie posed the question to his girlfriend (while also getting down on one knee) as "Deal or No Deal?", and when she accepted, the screen humorously read "DEAL: ENGAGED". He eliminated $300,000 for an offer of $148,000, rejected that, then eliminated $200 and ultimately accepted the $301,000 offer. His next selection would have been $1,000,000, and there was $25 in his case, with $50 and $400,000 remaining in the gallery. In addition, the banker was so intimidated near the end of play, that he put on a clown's nose in respect of the contestant.

Model Theater
Messy Thinking 14:09, 15 January 2007 (UTC) Has anyone gotten to see the Model Theater on the U.S. Deal website? Their Heroes spoof is a guaranteed hoot.

100th episode
BROOKS LEACH IS COMING BACK! 24.206.74.247 16:36, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

may 3 episode?
THERE WAS NO MAY 3RD EPISODE!

go to any other site that provides information on DOND episodes and you will find no documentation. 24.206.74.247 18:23, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Spilled the beans about May 3rd episode which aired tonight May 6th
Actually someone spilled the beans on here because tonight's episode (May 6, 2007) is the one that the contestant won $1 that the poster mentioned because they mentioned about Hurricane Katrina and Clorox donating money. I hate it when people spoil the game for everyone. BravesFan2006, 22:22, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

THANKS VERY MUCH 72.142.168.85! 24.206.74.247 02:33, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

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Spoilers for future episodes
When posting information on future episodes, could you please refrain from discussing the gameplay, or the reason a guest appeared on the show? (It's okay to mention the guest.) Even though NBC is habitually spoiling the game with its promos and press releases doesn't mean we have to do it, too. -- azumanga 16:38, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

MDM?
howie did not mention any limit on how many $1,000,000 cases would be added to the game during today's games. Andrewb1 01:15, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

There should be a separate section for the syndication edition
There should be section on the syndicated edition coming in 2008. I heard that the format will be similar to the UK version where it'll be 22 cases held by 22 different contestants and one lucky contestant will be picked to play the game with their selected case. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.242.229.112 (talk) 16:34, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

i might add that there should also perhaps be one for the MDM. 64.91.201.195 02:04, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Records
Added a records section. The records for the bank offers didn't seem to fit in Gameplay. Feel free to expand it if you wish. :)

Does anyone have the record for most money won with a no deal? Sibpin 07:00, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Do we need all of those. They are good but there is a bit too many for my liking LB22 20:04, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Country Of Origin
I dont think the Country Of Origin is the US. So if you find the real Country Of Origin please write it.
 * It originated in Austrailia, check the main Deal or no deal page. 70.111.251.203 02:14, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
 * If you check that page you'll see that it originated not in Australia but in the Netherlands in 2001.67.161.117.60 09:26, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
 * It started in Denmark. There were versions throughout Europe before the US version.

It started in the NetherlandsLB22 20:03, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Small amounts?
The table of amounts says the smallest amount is $1. I had the impression that it was 1¢, and certainly the text nearby says that as a joke it was once increased to 3¢. Either it's wrong or something's changed at some time. 207.176.159.90 02:24, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

there was also a $150 amount. the person who did this was thinking of KAPAMILYA deal or no deal, where that is what the left side of the board is. i returned it to its proper state. 24.206.74.247 00:54, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

It definitely was 1¢ and i never knew there was a $150 one and I know alot about DOND worldwide (I watch the UK version with Noel Edmonds LB22 17:25, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Article Clean Up
This article is in major need of overhauling. As part of the clean up to shorten this article, I have completely removed the Records and Statistics section. It really isn't necessary for this article, is more trivia than encyclopedic, and appeared to be comprised almost entirely of WP:NOR.

The Million Dollar Mission, Lucky Case game, and Case values sections have been put under the Game play section. I've moved up Odds and Probabilities section to be under there as well and cut it down in size, though I think the section could also easily be cut out all together as being unnecessary. The Guest appearances, Trivia, Quotes, and Imitations are gone. They are all sections of trivia and fancruft, not encyclopedic value. There were a few bits of good stuff in the trivia which has been put in a new production details section, however they need clean up and better organizing. The merchandise section has been rewritten to get it out of list form. Finally, I have cleaned up the External Links section which had many links that violate the external links policies.

Things that still need to be done to help get this article's quality up: several sections need references fixed as they are mostly inline links and some are not valid references (such as a link to Wal-mart.com). The sectioning is badly done and all over the place. Some reorganization is highly desirable and WikiProject_Television/How_to_write_about_television_programs would be a good guide to use for help there. Several sections also need cutting down to be tighter and more encyclopedic, particularly changing lists to prose and removing extraneous details. AnmaFinotera 02:50, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

BuzzerBlog not considered a reliable source?
I returned the "the Million Dollar Mission will return" fact to the article, which was originally deleted by AnmaFinotera on the justification that it is a personal blog. I would personally not regard BuzzerBlog as "personal"; obviously it does include a degree of subjectivity, but it has a number of contributors who all have connections within the game show industry - hardly just one person. See for more details. --Scani (talk) 03:15, 20 November 2007 (UTC)


 * I also removed it because the article doesn't really confirm the return, from what I could see, it just had a video clip (which may or may not be a copyvio...not sure what the rules for that would be). If its considered an industry blog, though, and others feel it is actually confirming that the Million Dollar Mission will return, I'm fine with letting it stand. AnmaFinotera (talk) 03:30, 20 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Buzzerblog has generally been reliable, with pretty good contacts in the industry. The assertion is not outlandish - it was always a good bet that the million dollar stunt would return sooner or later. I think we can leave it in the article. Casey Abell (talk) 04:13, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
keep that statistic section in, but trim it a little.. 64.91.201.195 (talk) 22:23, 22 November 2007 (UTC)