Talk:Dean Potter

Update
He is no longer married to Steph Davis. She has divorced him. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.102.100.23 (talk) 18:37, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Dean Potter crosses a canyon in central China
Telegraph article probably relevant to the article. EdwardLane (talk) 11:34, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

I added in a few words and rephrased the sentence surrounding his "Delicate Arch" controversy to specify both the year and the national park that it occurred in. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tigrefibre (talk • contribs) 17:44, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

Birthday discrepancy
So is it January 18 as in the intro sentence, or April 14 as under his photo? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 222.172.196.40 (talk • contribs) 07:17, April 14, 2015‎ (UTC)

New York Times 17 May 2015
– Conrad T. Pino (talk) 06:23, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

Personal life section
Is needed, especially considering his recent death. I have pasted here the relevant section I added to Steph Davis, his ex wife's BLP page. This was merely a re-arrangement/amalgamation of was was already there. This can be adapted for Potters BLP.


 * In the fall of 1994, Davis was climbing Long's Peak in Colorado and noticed Dean Potter climbing. He had dropped out of the University of New Hampshire in 1992 and been living out of his Volkswagen Jetta so that he could pursue climbing. When they met, Davis was not interested in a boyfriend, but Potter persisted and finally the two became involved. As Davis describes it, "It was fireworks and drama from then on." The two began a tumultuous on-again/off-again relationship that involved living in each other's vehicles and trying to secure sponsorships.


 * In 1995, Davis and Potter made Moab, Utah their home by "acquiring a storage unit and a library card." However, Davis never lived there full-time, often traveling to Yosemite, where she planned to build a house, or to other climbing destinations. In Moab, Davis turned a doublewide trailer into a small cottage, complete with a piano.


 * Davis and Potter split up in 2001, just before a trip to Patagonia. Davis had been hoping to summit Fitz Roy and ended up finding a partner after she flew down alone and summitted. However, a month later in Moab, Potter proposed and in June 2002 the two were married in a meadow in La Sals. Despite being married, the couple did not have a traditional relationship. They were rarely in the same place at the same time due to their climbing projects. They also fought over whose projects had priority.


 * In 2006, Davis' marriage to Potter ended after he controversially climbed Delicate Arch. The couple lost sponsorships over the climb and thus their financial stability. This added to their already tense relationship and led to their divorce. Potter died in a BASE jump/wingsuit accident on 16 May 2015.


 * 220  of  Borg 21:10, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

Legacy section
Typically legacy sections are used for things named after the subject or encyclopedic discussion of specific things that the person changed. In this case it seems to be more of a memorial quote. The Dissident Aggressor 22:53, 20 May 2015 (UTC)


 * The use of a legacy section isn't quite as limited as you state, but I do agree that the division here was pointless. A single quote about his death does not a legacy section make.  I removed the header but left the content. --ThaddeusB (talk) 14:24, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

The last paragraph as of May 22 2015 is not encyclopedic.
Does Wikipedia not have ANY sort of referee or copy-editor who vets ANYTHING at all? The last paragraph is a eulogy, not a factual recitation. It is sourced to a source that makes it clear that someone (who has a name, which is "Alex Honnold", by the way) said these words. It is (most likely) true that Alex Honnold said those words. That does not make it likely that the words that he said are true. Those words are only his own appraisal. It is a fact that he uttered this appraisal, but his appraisal itself is not fact. And while it is a fact that he did utter this appraisal, it might not be a NOTEWORTHY fact worthy of inclusion in an encyclopedia article about this man. Furthermore, someone has edited what the NYTimes itself sourced to Honnold to make it appear as if the person posting the words, not Alex Honnold, is the person whose opinion/experience this is. If Alex Honnold is in a position to know, there could be some writing along the lines of "Alex Honnold who has [reasons for reqarding him as qualified] qualifications, said of Dean Potter that [list of pertinent facts, such as Potter's influence on others or creation of a movement, omitting irrelevant information such as Honnold's personal experience of Potter (except insofar as that personal experience bears on the above), and omitting assessments of Potter's value to humanity one way or the other. That'd be okay. But posting it the way you posted it is just wrong.2604:2000:C6AA:B400:B085:EFF5:1D43:EE42 (talk) 05:20, 23 May 2015 (UTC)Christopher L. Simpson
 * Personally, I would just add to the Death paragraph, something in the vein of "many people within the climbing community expressed their shock and sorrow, and saluted his accomplishments, like for example Alex Honnold who said this the NYT: Dean Potter has been a visionary influence in climbing for 20 years. I grew up hearing about what he was climbing. He sort of shaped the direction of climbing for this generation. He was a very creative influence on climbing — never the best climber, but he took it in all these different directions.". Akseli9 (talk) 09:29, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

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