Talk:Death on Two Legs

Heavy metal?
Give me a fucking break!  R ad io pa th y  •talk•  23:47, 14 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Consensus on WikiProject Queen seems to be simply "Rock." It should stay that way, in my opinion. Just put "Rock" in the infobox and let people stop freaking out about it. I don't see why this happens over and over again, as if people think changing genres on Wikipedia is some sort of urgent goal they need to achieve. Friginator (talk) 02:03, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

Death on Two Legs or Death on Two Legs (Dedicated to)?
Can there please be clarification about the article title? The official title is "Death on Two Legs (Dedicated to)", however the title used is just "Death on Two Legs". Several disambugation links say "Death on Two Legs (Dedicated to)", so can we please clear this up? Thank you.67.54.187.27 (talk) 01:08, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

Move proposal

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The result of the move request was: moved per nominator, without capitalising the last word. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 17:22, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

Death on Two Legs → Death on Two Legs (Dedicated to...) – Actual full title of song, like 'Norwegian Wood (This Bird Has Flown)'.  R ad io pa th y  •talk•  00:09, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
 * This seems uncontroversial enough to just move it without the need for community input. Dyrnych (talk) 14:50, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

Support: The links always state "Death On Two Legs (Dedicated to...)" but they always redirect to "Death On Two Legs". We need to distinguish the two.--67.54.191.225 (talk) 18:18, 25 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Generally support, but MOS:CT says to capitalize the first and last words of a title, so it should be Death on Two Legs (Dedicated To...) This is the form used on Queen's website, linked from the article. --BDD (talk) 21:30, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
 * The "to" here is a preposition, and is followed by an ellipsis; I don't think it's necessary to capitalise the last word, since it's implied that it's not the last word!  R ad io pa th y  •talk•  04:32, 29 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Implication notwithstanding, "to" is the last word of the title. --BDD (talk) 16:24, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
 * For first letters, it's because of technical database issues that they can only be capitalised; that's why there is a lowercase title template to display stuff like iPod. For the last, the point of MOS:CT's recommendations is to avoid stuff like The Place We Ran from, where the last word may look awkward. We don't have this problem here, since we have an "on" in the middle of the sentence (in fact, it is  "Death on Two Legs (Dedicated To...)" that looks awkward, with one capitalised preposition and another one that's not). walk  victor falktalk 09:29, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
 * iPod and the like are exceptions; normally, a first letter should be capitalized. Otherwise you'd have titles like in the Hall of the Mountain King or on Top of Old Smoky. --BDD (talk) 17:20, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Not disagreeing here? We're not talking about initial letters. walk victor falktalk 21:59, 8 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Support per all above, do not capitalise "to", not correct. walk victor falktalk 14:15, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Support original proposal, do not capitalize the final "to." Whatever the letter of the guideline may be, its spirit cannot be to create titles that appear as awkward as this one would, as Victor falk says.  Especially in light of the elipsis, an exception to the general practice of capitalizing final words is warranted here. Xoloz (talk) 02:13, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
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Final preposition
I've moved the page as to have the final word in the title capitalized per the Manual of Style, as the years-old move discussion above just decides to unilaterally throw the MOS out entirely, which is not allowed (that's why it's a style guide) and has no particular justification here.<span id="Remsense:1701933513377:TalkFTTCLNDeath_on_Two_Legs_(Dedicated_To...)" class="FTTCmt">  Remsense  留  07:18, 7 December 2023 (UTC)

Requested move 7 December 2023
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The result of the move request was: withdrawn. (non-admin closure) Remsense  留  15:00, 7 December 2023 (UTC)

Death on Two Legs (Dedicated to...) → Death on Two Legs (Dedicated To...) – There seems to be considerable editor blindness to the part of MOS:5LETTER that states the final word of a work's title is capitalized, even if it would otherwise not be.&#32; Remsense 留  07:38, 7 December 2023 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). UtherSRG (talk) 12:20, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: WikiProject Queen has been notified of this discussion. UtherSRG (talk) 12:20, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: WikiProject Songs has been notified of this discussion. UtherSRG (talk) 12:21, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: WikiProject Rock music has been notified of this discussion. UtherSRG (talk) 12:21, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: WikiProject Metal has been notified of this discussion. UtherSRG (talk) 12:21, 7 December 2023 (UTC)

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 * Oppose: The ellipsis in the title indicates that other words are implied to be missing. See the clear consensus at Talk:In Search of. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 14:04, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I believe this if consensus is binding, it should be reflected in the Manual of Style since it's a common enough device as to create confusion. Remsense  留  14:06, 7 December 2023 (UTC)

Another requested move 7 December 2023
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The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) NmWTfs85lXusaybq (talk) 15:47, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

Death on Two Legs (Dedicated to...) → Death on Two Legs – WP:CONCISE, MOS:SUBTITLE, WP:COMMONNAME. As can be seen from the label on the vinyl single as shown at the top of the article, the parenthesized phrase is often omitted from the name of this topic. This would also resolve the question about capitalization of the trailing parenthesized preposition. This would revert an RM move of 12 April 2014. The proposed title already redirects to this longer one. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 15:19, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I'll add that the 2014 comparison to "Norwegian Wood (This Bird Has Flown)" is not really appropriate, because in that case the topic is not a primary topic for "". A disambiguation page is at the shortened name of that one, thus differing from this situation. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 01:28, 8 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Support: Sources in article do not use the subtitle in referring to the song. Maintain redirect from longer title. QuietHere (talk &#124; contributions) 17:05, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Oppose: The song's title is the song's title. In fact I don't think the closing parenthesis should even be there... YorkshireExpat (talk) 20:47, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Support as the proposed title has a higher ghit count, making it the more common name. - UtherSRG (talk) 01:16, 8 December 2023 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 16 January 2024
2601:247:C601:57C0:60B9:1B8F:B033:41C8 (talk) 22:48, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Please don't copy-paste the whole article onto the talk page, as it is practically impossible for responders to identify exactly what you want changed. I have removed the text, which others can still find in the edit history. Liu1126 (talk) 22:56, 16 January 2024 (UTC)