Talk:Deaths in December 2018

Jael Strauss (and similar entries)
The direct link Jael Strauss actually redirects to a contest page. I changed it to Jael Strauss (model) to show the red link, but I'm not sure how we handled such cases before. Please fix as you see fit. R ED G OLPE (TALK) 15:26, 9 December 2018 (UTC)


 * We usually mantain the redirect for one month, then delete the entry. --Folengo (talk) 16:05, 9 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Sorry if I was not clear enough: I'm familiar with the one month rule. In this case, though, the deceased's name Jael Strauss is the name of a page which redirects to the contest the deceased is famous for, and I assume it can be considered an implicit piping. So now technically we have two entries for this person: the said redirect, and my new red link, Jael Strauss (model), created with the sole purpose to show a red link. I'm not sure if this is correct, or how to handle such particular cases. R ED G OLPE   (TALK) 16:44, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Whoa. If Strauss were to have an article, it would be at Jael Strauss. The redirect would be overwritten with an article. We absolutely do not need Jael Strauss (model), for anything.-- Laun chba ller 17:32, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
 * That's the point. How do you show that there is no article? Or we just let the link be blue? If so, feel free to correct the entry. R ED G OLPE (TALK) 18:09, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
 * What he said about the piping above. Regardless of where it leads (within logical reason), it forms a valid redirect which will be "sorted out" after 30 days housekeeping is done. Stays unpiped for now. Ref (chew) (do) 18:51, 9 December 2018 (UTC)

Floyd Parton - 6th December
Outrageous redirect. He's not even mentioned once in his sister Dolly's Wikipedia article, and flouts the 'notability by association' dictat into the bargain. Ref (chew) (do) 01:41, 12 December 2018 (UTC)


 * True, but look how it began . —  Wylie pedia  @ 18:17, 12 December 2018 (UTC)
 * So, usually that would mean it was speedy deleted and returned to being a redlink, unless his solo notability could be otherwise proven and expanded. Not linked to the famous twin sis, a clear case of attempted notability by association. It matters not in any case, because his lack of own bluelink will do for him in a month's time, if the redirect is not separated into an article of his own. Ref (chew) (do) 19:02, 12 December 2018 (UTC)

Jakelin Caal and Felipe Gómez Alonzo
Should Jakelin Caal and Felipe Gómez Alonzo be listed here? Are they notable? I would argue that they are because they are the human faces on an issue that is currently at the fore, at least in the United States, one that involves the authorities there and even the president. Kelisi (talk) 22:59, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
 * It has been agreed previously that this page includes the notable deaths of non-notable people. So, Death of Jakelin Cal and Death of Felipe Gómez Alonzo would qualify for listing here. There is no precedent when the deaths are reported in a single Wikipedia article (Deaths of Jakelin Caal and Felipe Gómez Alonzo). WWGB (talk) 02:28, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Then this will be the precedent. I shall list them. Kelisi (talk) 03:22, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
 * As long as the "event" article mentioned does not form part of a pipe in the named subject, I would say allowable. Both names mentioned above now redirect to the event page. Ref (chew) (do) 06:52, 29 December 2018 (UTC)

Frank Adonis Dec.26
Fixed the internal link in someone else's submission, now the entry is totally gone. How come? AMCKen (talk) 08:08, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
 * It was decided at Articles for deletion/Frank Adonis that he is not notable, hence not eligible to be listed here. WWGB (talk) 09:07, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
 * For those late to the game on this, an AfD deletion renders the 30 day rule for "keeping a redlink" null, as a dedicated article on him (and not a redirect to a relative) will not be allowed due to this decision. Thanks. Ref (chew) (do) 13:55, 30 December 2018 (UTC)

Ah, the thorny subject of Frank Adonis in Wikipedia land. Although I am not an expert on the subject, by any means, my investigations and observations have established a number of things. Firstly, the redirect to Joe Adonis is ridiculous and should be changed immediately, as there is no evidence on that page to even hint that they were related. The fact that they had a common surname pseudonym seems to have confused some. Apart from one son, Joe jnr. (and three daughters) there is only one other relative mentioned, which is not Frank. They also had totally different real surnames. It seems unlikely that they were related at all, from the available evidence so far. As for being notable or otherwise, if appearing in over 40 movies and at least three television series doesn't qualify, then what does. Remember we're talking notable here, not necessarily famous. A good example of this is a recently deceased Fijian parliamentarian, who I doubt is known outside of Fiji. 203.196.41.161 (talk) 00:54, 31 December 2018 (UTC) Editrite!


 * His entry has been removed from here, which is all we care about. To whom he may or may not be related to is none of our concern on this page. —  Wylie pedia  @ 02:17, 31 December 2018 (UTC) Getitrite!