Talk:Deaths in June 2008

Danny Moss
Why no entry on this person?  --ProperFraction (talk) 03:28, 7 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Because no editors (yourself included) saw fit to add it? WWGB (talk) 03:34, 7 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Im also extremely surprised that no article exists on Danny Moss--ProperFraction (talk) 03:36, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
 * i'd never heard of the guy prior to reading the obit., but having read it, it does indeed seem like he should have an article. i'm going to have a poke at one now. remember to be bold, y'all.  tomasz.  18:17, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
 * article up. see what you think.  tomasz.  15:12, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Jimmy Bonthrone
Why did his name get removed soon after I added him? Mika2008 (talk) 13:35, 10 June 2008 (UTC)


 * It's still there. See Deaths in 2008. WWGB (talk) 13:38, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * But was deleted, probably because of this edit and this edit, which preceded it. I suggest a reading of "The Boy Who Cried Wolf". -- Rodhull andemu  13:40, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Tony Schwartz
He's in 15 June because this says he died "Sunday".

But he's also in 14 June because this says he died "Saturday".

Whom do we believe? -- JackofOz (talk) 06:13, 17 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Hi JoO, good pickup. His own website states 15th. That'll do me! WWGB (talk) 07:29, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Chu Fu-sung
He should be included.84.134.61.228 (talk) 15:40, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Someone tried to include him yesterday but didn't provide a verifiable source for his death. We have to be certain before mentioning people here. -- Rodhull andemu  15:47, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

The source is www.rulers.com84.134.112.193 (talk) 17:32, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry, even as a joke it's not very funny. -- Rodhull andemu  17:55, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Sorry but I don't understand.84.134.112.193 (talk) 18:00, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * The reference you cited redirects to a site selling "rulers", as in straight-edges used for drawing lines or measuring distance. Are you sure it's correct? -- Rodhull andemu  18:05, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Got it. .ORG, not .COM; I'll fix it. -- Rodhull andemu  18:07, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * On the .com page, I thought it was amusing that there was a link, "Free pictures of rulers to see." Ha. Tan   |   39  18:08, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, now he's dead, we don't need a free picture. -- Rodhull andemu  18:12, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank you.84.134.112.193 (talk) 18:14, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

David Brierly
I may have prematurely moved David Brierly's obit to June 10 based on information I saw on his page. Once I began looking for the announcement at The Stage, I found that I couldn't confirm a date of death at all. Haven't reverted my edit though. Can anyone confirm a date of death? Thank you; Susan Gleason (talk) 03:06, 22 June 2008 (UTC)


 * There is also this article that refers to 10 June. I have added it to his death notice. WWGB (talk) 03:24, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Ronnie L. White
Why was my original entry of his death deleted ? The man was murdered in police custody. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.243.45.71 (talk) 14:05, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
 * "The intent of these pages is to report notable deaths. Tragic deaths, while unfortunate, do not necessarily make the deceased "notable"."  tomasz.  15:01, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

What is notable is the fact the man was murdered whilst in police custody. That alone makes it worthy of inclusion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.243.45.71 (talk) 18:22, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
 * That's your opinion on the issue. however, we have a policy, and more often than not the consensus has been that tragic deaths, like thise one, aren't always the same as notable deaths. See also here for more information on WP's notability criteria.

So you will include a convicted irish terrorist, but not an Afro-American murdered by the police ? Racism ! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.243.45.71 (talk) 20:58, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Ronnie L. White is a former judge and attorney. The guy murdered by police doesn't even have a WP article. Feel free to write one if you feel this is amiss, but please assume good faith and try to state your points in a better way than cowardly and meaningless accusations of racism. Thanks.  tomasz.  13:04, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

How is it cowardly ? THe cowardly act is to refuse to include this man because of his Afro-American roots. Since wiki chooses to include a white paedophile who died from lethal injection, but not an Afro-American murdered in police custody what else is there to infer ?

And for the record, I am white, so it is not a case of my colour prejudice or chip on my shoulder. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.243.45.71 (talk • contribs)
 * It's cowardly because you are an anonymous making personal attacks (insinuations of racism) on another editor rather than trying to deal with the issue in terms of our guidelines and the way wikipedia works. Our opinion of a person's worth or what they do does not determine their encyclopedic presence, otherwise there'd be no article on Adolf Hitler either. So clearly, race is not the issue here, but the guidelines i've already shown you. For the record, i also didn't remove the man from the list, i was just offering a possible explanation as to a likely reason why someone else did. Finally, regarding your race, i don't give two hoots about what race you are, as, unlike you, i don't believe it's pertinent to the issue. Thanks,  tomasz.  10:55, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

It is apparent from your tone that race is indeed the issue. I don't know why you appear to have such deep ingrained views, maybe you were frightened as a baby or something weird.

But if you truly believe that a child rapist & killer is worthy of inclusion and a man murdered by the police in the cells is not, makes you one seriously mixed up person. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.243.45.71 (talk) 14:53, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
 * you're the one pushing the race issue; i'm simply explaining policy. if you don't like policy, campaign to change it, but please grow up and get over your ad hominem attacks just because someone doesn't agree with you. Maybe also try reading the ad hominem article to see where you're going wrong, it's pretty good.  tomasz.  15:29, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
 * by the way, you might be shocked to learn that we also have articles on bad white guys and good black guys. OMG conspiracy?!?!  tomasz.  15:37, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

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