Talk:Deaths of the Twelve Apostles

This is a nice page, but it has some curious features. This is connected to Twelve Apostles which also is concerned with a broader topic, as evidenced by its considerable discussion on Paul. But one thing at a time. I propose then that this article be renamed "Deaths of the Apostles" (with this name continuing as a redirect, of course), and it could say something about all twelve. Also, there is fairly little agreement among historians about whether the traditional accounts of the deaths of the apostles are accurate. That's not so relevant here; this page is obviously about giving the traditional account, but something along those lines should be said--at the least, identifying the source of the particular legend in question for each one. Tb (talk) 19:18, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
 * 1) It lists thirteen apostles under the heading "The Twelve Apostles"
 * 2) It should say something about the death of Judas Iscariot.
 * 3) Paul wasn't one of the Twelve.
 * 4) If Paul is listed, Barnabas should be too.
 * 5) Mark is listed, despite not being one of the twelve or an apostle at all
 * 6) John isn't in the list where he belongs

Bartholomew
Where did the suggestion of Bartholomew being crucified come from? I have never heard that suggestion before. Every tradition of which I am aware, states that he was flayed, some adding that he was subsequently beheaded. Here is just one example of many you can find through a simple Google. This (being flayed) is why his symbol is a knife, and also why he is the patron saint of tanners. I intend to change the article accordingly. I have also just checked the Oxford Dictionary of Saints for confirmation. That also records flaying and beheading as the cause of death, with no mention of any alternative tradition.  Timothy Titus Talk To TT  06:09, 13 November 2008 (UTC)