Talk:Debar

Dibra or Debar or Dibri or Deborus...
One of two things should be done to end confusion concerning linking to this page. Either this page should be renamed Debar and a redirect should be added for Dibra to this page or a redirect should be added for Debar to the current name of the page. While I lack the technical knowledge to do either (I dont really understand how to add redirects), I would suggest the former because Dibra or Dibri did not come into use until Turkish occupation of the city in 1449 and since then Debar has become the official name again. In addition a section explaining the difference between Upper and Lower Debar - created during Turkish rule - should be explained as to why the Turks split the city and its effect on the city today.freestylefrappe 17:38, Jan 9, 2005 (UTC)

I recently found, on http://www.omda.bg/imir/studies/alban_id9.html, that the name Dibra is not only the Ottoman name for the city, but also the Albanian name (according to Antonina Zhelyazkov). freestylefrappe 22:32, Jan 18, 2005 (UTC)


 * We'll have to figure out something about the current name of this article. To most Albanians (from Albania at least) Dibra is the region in Albania, while the one in Macedonia is called "Dibra e Madhe" (meaning the Big or Great Dibra). See Counties of Albania for the region in Albania (also called Dibra e Vogël meaning Small Dibra). You can also try a couple of google searches to see what I mean (although they will likely be in Albanian) Dori | Talk 04:25, Feb 6, 2005 (UTC)
 * I realize that Dibra is the Albanian name for the town of Debar, but it's official and commonly used name is Debar. The main article should be named after the official name of the town, just as the town of Kukush (slavic name) can be found only with the Greek toponym Kilkis. Furthermore, as Dori has stated the term Dibra is used to describe a wider geographical region, not only the town in RoM. I'm moving this article to "Debar", (if albanian users type Dibra, they should be redirected to this article) and I'm also adding a little info of the two names of this town. Best regards. --FlavrSavr 02:46, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

This is confusing: "Almost all of the estimated 50,000 people living in Debar are Macedonians, Albanians and Turks." - user

Mafia violence
This is the first time I encounter this information. This happened july 17, 1999? --FlavrSavr 02:59, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Is anybody against deleting that section? It sounds like a tabloid headline, plus is just plain ugly. People want to read about general information not some mafia feuds. --Cigor 20:53, 12 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Yes, the ugliness is not a rationale to delete it. It's relevant current events. freestylefrappe 02:09, September 13, 2005 (UTC)

Rewording
Can anybody explain what does the second part of this sentence mean? What was accepted? "Dibra was also significantly involved in the national Albanian movement and on November 1, 1878 the Albanian League of Prizren was accepted."--Cigor 03:22, 13 September 2005 (UTC)

The population
I reacted to this : "Albanians are 88.2%, Macedonians 4.8%, Turks 3%, Gypsies 2.3% and all others outstanding (most are Albanian) evidence in Albanian language. " -that is, the source are given to be sq.wikipedia. Thats not a source. However, the data it replaced had no source either. So, what is the right data?Greswik 16:11, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Medieval period
The Late Medieval Balkans: A Critical Survey from the Late Twelfth Century ... By John Van Antwerp Fine says that after Battle of Maritza, Brankovići and Balšići "siezed part of Marko's familys holdings" and that Marko was "pushed out from both eastern and Western Macedonia". Marko's principality was reduced to "around Prilep".

The text of the article suggests that Vukašin Mrnjavčević (or his successor Marko) controlled Debar till 1395. But according to Fine, it is not true. Does anybody know who controlled Debar in period 1371-1395?--Antidiskriminator (talk) 19:40, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

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