Talk:Decanter

Editing for style
I've added back the sentence "Decanters have also been designed in various modernized shapes" and added in the picture. User:Wendy.heah 3:00, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

I've removed the following sentences from the article:


 * Of late, wine funnels or decants which are used together with the decanter have improvised versions which when used, becomes an artistic process.

I don't actually understand this sentence. What does "improvised versions" mean in this context? In what way is the process artistic? This doesn't make a lot of sense. Unless we have a source that explains it in more detail, I don't think it belongs in the article.


 * Decanters have also been designed in various modernized shapes.

Undoubtedly this is true, but without examples, this is meaningless. The traditional shape is only described in the vaguest of terms, so how is one to even begin to guess what a modernized shape looks like?

I also changed "Most decanters [...] is made of glass" back to "[...] are made of glass" as this is a clear grammatical error, and I can't quite see why the last editor changed it that way to start with. JulesH 22:31, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Shouldn't this "While only some red wines require decantation, all red wines, especially young ones, benefit from the oxygenation that occurs during the decanting process..." be "While only some white wines .... Coyote (a red wine enthusiast)
 * I think the implication is that some red wines require it while all benefit from it, rather than pointing out the difference between white and red Kylemahan 18:17, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Also, decanters are not specific only to wines but may be used for liquors as well. (confused editor) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 164.76.176.58 (talk) 23:11, August 29, 2007 (UTC)

aeration vs "allowing to breathe"
isnt that the same thing? why are these different paragraphs? Skiendog (talk) 01:27, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

Typically, aeration is the introduction of air into a liquid through forced agitation while, "allowing to breathe" is when a still liquid's surface area, exposed to air, is increased.

The difference can be seen with a lake: Lakes which do not have some source of moving, incoming water and usually an exit as well, quickly become stagnant; it's biology changes and among other things the smell becomes pungent. The smell is of particular import to our comparison, because should the lake have a wind break around it such as a dense grove of trees, the smell will gather and build in the closed pocket of air just like the pocket of air in the decanter.

It is obviously undesirable to have the afore mentioned developments in the case of a lake, and to counter them aerators can be installed. The aerators work by pumping liquid up and into the air as a fountain. The physical and forcible mixing of air and water result in higher oxygen levels below the surface of the water, and thereby a much healthier lake environment.

With wine, it is preferable that the nose be able to develop; to gather and build, through a slow exposure to air. There is some aeration which occurs as the contents of the wine bottle are transferred to the decanter. This transfer is ideally a slow and careful one, which increases the opportunity for the wine to develop. Continued aeration, like the lake, would increase the air content below the exposed surface, but would grossly affect ones enjoyment of the wine. Dolamite02 (talk) 03:28, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

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Stopper?
Should it have a stopper or not? The photos don't seem to have them - so does that make them carafes? And what's the pronunciation of that word? Malick78 (talk) 16:18, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

I agree there is confusion here. Dictionary says decanters have stoppers, carafes do not. Mentions of a stopper in this article logically imply the same. So why the picture of an un-stopped carafe and calling it a decanter? I came onto this site for the very purpose of figuring out this difference, only to find the article unclear. I'll let someone else do the editing, since I'm among the confused—not an expert. LH — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.148.58.206 (talk) 16:49, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

Currently there are 3 pictures of carafes on this page, and no pictures of decanters, which is a big problem as this is the decanter page. I'm still not sure what a decanter looks like. ImMAW (talk) 03:49, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Decantation
Decantation is the process of separation of two parts of a mixture, in wine case, of the bottom, dreggy part from the upper, clear liquid part. So, this sentence "In the process, the sediment is left in the original vessel, and the clear liquid is transferred to the decanter." does not make sense. Why would we needs a decanter for an already clear liquid?--Mirrordor 21:59, 4 January 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mirrordor (talk • contribs)

Sequencing batch reactor
A decanter has another meaning in wastewater treatment.--194.129.64.4 (talk) 15:05, 31 May 2016 (UTC)

Decanter vs bottle
Can someone help me understand the linguistic difference between a bottle and decanter? Obviously a decanter is a specialized type of bottle, but in the case of certain alcohols (e.g., cognac or scotch, as mentioned in the article) would it be inappropriate to refer to the vessel as a bottle? My understanding is that it's a bit of a rectangles and squares situation, that all decanters are bottles, but not the reverse. Are there appreciable differences that would make this an unsuitable synonym/substitution?--FacultiesIntact (talk) 21:33, 5 January 2018 (UTC)