Talk:Decision intelligence

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I recreated the Decision engineering page today. It is my first Wikipedia entry, and I look forward to any feedback or edits. Note that I work for Quantellia, Inc. prazan 06:58, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Requested move 31 December 2017

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The result of the move request was: Page moved. (closed by page mover) --  Dane talk  18:50, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

Decision engineering → Decision Intelligence – Decision Engineering and Decision Intelligence (DI) have split into separate fields. This page is more about DI than DE. There are a number of companies now calling themselves DI companies today, including Element Data (https://www.geekwire.com/2017/decision-intelligence-platform-element-data-raises-another-2-6m-fuel-growth/), Busigence (http://busigence.com/), and Quantellia (http://www.quantellia.com). Also see the Decision Intelligence video channel, at https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzrpdMOEKpApfJcPA20KMGA. Suggest that this page be called Decision Intelligence and that there be a parenthetical near the beginning saying (also sometimes known as decision engineering) prazan 03:25, 31 December 2017 (UTC) --Relisting.  sami  talk 08:07, 5 January 2018 (UTC)


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Some proposed changes
Information to be added or removed: To address the concern that there aren't enough citations, add a reference to Link (see below) Explanation of issue: Add a new reference References supporting change: https://www.amazon.com/Link-Decision-Intelligence-Connects-Outcomes/dp/1787696545/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr= prazan 03:08, 10 August 2019 (UTC) prazan 01:51, 12 August 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Prazan (talk • contribs)

Information to be added or removed: Request that the Causal Decision Diagram (CDD) from the above reference also be added. It is a key element of DI, because it unifies subsymbolic/symbolic thinking (through using piecewise models from the past in a framework that shows a nonlinear systems model for the future). References supporting change: https://www.amazon.com/Link-Decision-Intelligence-Connects-Outcomes/dp/1787696545/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr= (this is in production, write to lorien@lorienpratt.com for the diagram from the book). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Prazan (talk • contribs) 02:11, 12 August 2019 (UTC)

Reply 12-AUG-2019

 * A book's listing on Amazon is not typically not used as the basis for a reference. When the book has been published, please provide the or  of the book as well as the page parameter so that it may be added to the article as a reference. Regards,  Spintendo  14:33, 12 August 2019 (UTC)

Recent lead changes reverted
Just some additional info and tips to clarify the recent revert of a good-faith edit: a lead should usually describe its topic in Wikipedia's own words, in a dispassionate and uninvolved language. Quoting a fancy headline ("The discipline of turning information into better actions at any scale."), even from an expert, does not provide an encyclopedic, fact-oriented description, and also gives undue weight to the opinion of 1 author among many. Secondly, Medium is generally considered a platform for "self-published" (kind of) blogs. While blog sources from acknowledged experts are occasionally permitted under certain circumstances (WP:BLOGS), it would be much better to base a topical definition on a summary of reputed publications with editorial oversight and fact-checking. Either way, the quote shouldn't be in the lead in this form. GermanJoe (talk) 08:28, 12 August 2019 (UTC)

Decision intelligence vs. engineering
The distinction between decision intelligence, decision engineering and other related fields must always be based on explicit statements in reliable, uninvolved expert sources. It should not be based on an editor's own knowledge (WP:OR), or the interpretation of sources that do not explicitly make this distinction (WP:SYNTH). The current handling in a passing mention seems to be relatively uncontroversial, but further improvements would need more specific details and some reliable sources explicitly verifying such details. Also, such sources would need to be independent - how companies would like to define certain terms as part of their PR strategy is irrelevant for an encyclopedia (unless such definitions are taken up more widely by other experts and become common usage). GermanJoe (talk) 09:18, 12 August 2019 (UTC)

"Applying machine learning at scale" listed at Redirects for discussion
A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Applying machine learning at scale. The discussion will occur at Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 September 18 until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. signed,Rosguill talk 15:30, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

Review of move to "Decision Intelligence"
How are people feeling about the move to "Decision Intelligence" now that we are a few years out? It feels like just a marketing term to me. I've reviewed all the sites I could find on the term, and all of them are very vague as to what it actually means. Something about 'data and AI'. None of the provide concrete examples or images, just buttons to "request a demo". And most establish the relevance of the term by pointing back to the same Gartner opinion piece. They don't really sound like what the description of "Decision Engineering" originally was. Dustin184 (talk) 23:00, 5 June 2023 (UTC)