Talk:Delhi Technological University

==Solar car team== This page states that Delhi College of Engineering created a solar race vehicle. Would whoever has the details of this project please enter the relevant information into the List of solar car teams page. The DCE vehicle would apparently be the first solar racing vehicle from India. Bry9000 (talk) 21:17, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Article improvement
Someone from the current batch at DCE needs to add more information, pics etc. on the New Campus. Needs information on batch strength, faculty, clubs etc. ~ Sanjoy


 * I think it's fairly OK now. more work that could go: citations for number of students and faculty; the section on student life (hostels etc.) could be expanded, too. I'd like to see more alumni listed, although without having too many examples. Gnusbiz  21:46, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

WP:INDIA Banner/Delhi Addition
Note: WP India Project Banner with Delhi workgroup parameters was added to this article talk page because the article falls under Category:Delhi or its subcategories. Should you feel this addition is inappropriate, please undo my changes and update/remove the relavent categories to the article -- Amartyabag   TALK2ME  13:24, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Admissions Section
I wanted to discuss why there is a talk of Netaji Subash Institute of Technology (NSIT) in the admissions section. The no of seats mentioned here as 1218 sound confusing. Are they the total seats for both the colleges ? I think we should mention the total no of seats at both the colleges : Delhi College of Engineering : 1218 http://admissions.aglasem.com/?p=8312 Netaji Subash Institute of Technology : 619 http://admissions.aglasem.com/?p=9705 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aanshuc (talk • contribs) 06:37, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I agree NSIT is irrelevant and removed it. I don't think the number sits should be mentioned at all. It changes every year and carries very little encyclopedic value. I removed it and the section now appears to me to be exactly how it should be, discussing the admission process, not its specifics in a given year. --Muhandes (talk) 09:50, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

Alumni
I wanted to bring to your notice that Sushant Singh Rajput is not an alumnus of DCE. It is true that at one time he was studying at DCE, but he dropped out of the college midway to pursue a different career. http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1405119 If you can find some other source as well, please validate the same. Instead I have added a few others, please check .. Also we have an Alumni Association http://dcealumni.org/, should we add information regarding it in the Alumni Association section ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aanshuc (talk • contribs) 08:43, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
 * If you think an article is wrong, it is best to fix it. I went ahead and removed Sushant Singh Rajput as well as tagging the other existing member. As for all the ones you added, per WP:NLIST and WP:INDISCRIMINATE, a member in a list needs to be notable. As none of these have Wikipedia articles, notability was not established, so I removed them. If the person is indeed notable, I suggest you create an article about them, and then add them again. The alumni association is currently mentioned in the Alumni section, there is no need for more. --Muhandes (talk) 18:20, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

Ranking
Another editor is insistently removing current ranking and replacing them with older ones without giving any reasoning. Please discuss here. --Muhandes (talk)

Dear Muhandes, neither I am removing current ranking nor replacing them with older ones. I am not even putting up any promotional content. I am correcting a misrepresented data. If you notice the webpage of career360 which you have used to give rank of DTU, you will realise that it does not list the ranking of "engineering" colleges. You can carefully go through the list at http://www.university.careers360.com/colleges/ranking/2017 and cross-check for your ownself how many among them are engineering institutes. Also you can check the title. Next, I had uploaded ranking of 3 years: latest being 2017, and even of 2016 and 2015. NIRF ranking is the other one, which again is comparison of universities not of engineering institutes. This (NIRF ranking) is well debated and quite understood in both academia and industry in India. You can have some of the quick reads at: https://www.quora.com/What-is-your-opinion-about-recent-NIRF-ranking https://www.quora.com/Is-NIRF-ranking-worth-true-and-considering You can read other related questions and answers as well. And following are even the department-wise national ranking of DTU: http://pickacollege.digit.in/search/result?mode=search&p[]=facets.stream=Electrical%20and%20electronics&p[]=facets.stream=Electronics%20and%20communcation http://pickacollege.digit.in/search/result?mode=search&p[]=facets.stream=Manufacturing%20engineering&p[]=facets.stream=Mechanical&p[]=facets.stream=Mechatronics http://pickacollege.digit.in/search/result?mode=search&p[]=facets.stream=Computer%20science&p[]=facets.stream=Information%20technology http://pickacollege.digit.in/search/result?mode=search&p[]=facets.stream=Civil which is consistently 12. Hence, the above data and the links I have posted in the corrected content show that rank 72 reported by career360 is incorrect. Also to just misrepresent data to dishonour an institute and term the correction as promotional is also not ethical. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gauravdce07 (talk • contribs) 17:25, 28 June 2017 (UTC) And at following link you can compare how ranking determined by career360 has consistently been an outlier w.r.t. other systems: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_engineering_college_rankings,_2015 Hence, I have a strong reason to remove career360 data which I again repeat is not even for comparing engineering institutes. Therefore, I updated this section with more concrete and comprehensive data.
 * Please stop reverting me while discussion is going on. Lets go over your claims one by one:

So yes, everything you do point out very clearly to promotion. Are you somehow related to DTU? You seem to work for them. --Muhandes (talk) 19:22, 28 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Careers360 overall ranking: It is "DTU was ranked 72 by Careers360's Top Universities in India 2017, 64 among government institutes" is a neutral, well sourced claim, by a notable source per consensus. It is not saying anything bad or good, it is simply a number, Unless you have a valid claim against it, don't remove it, pick and choosing rankings is promotion.
 * We don't add rankings from older years because they are redundant. Old ranking are old history. This is the consensus, as you can check with almost all other India institutes articles. The only reason I can think of to show old rankings is again, promotion.
 * "[DTU was ranked] 39 by the National Institutional Ranking Framework in 2017" is a neutral, well sourced claim, by a notable source per consensus. You are free to add any claims you have against it to the NIRF article, but again, pick and choosing is promotion.
 * I added The Week ranking from your text.
 * I'm not sure Times Engineering Survey is notable, but I added it from your text.
 * The Edu-Rand Rankings is old and irrelevant. It was removed from all India institutes articles. It is clear you want it here for promotion.

Dear Muhandes, I am not trying to promote, but rather bring to your notice the discrepancy and the lack of validity of career360. Just because it ranks a particular institute very low it doesn't make it a neutral source of ranks. Let me give you couple of examples: See Career360 Link: (a) http://www.university.careers360.com/colleges/ranking/2017 --> List Universities (includes everything like medical, agriculture, arts, commerce, science, etc) and (b) http://www.engineering.careers360.com/colleges/ranking/2017 --> Lists Engineering Colleges (all types: private, government and public-private) and compare the data of Ranking of 4 key colleges which are have same reputation. Also note how different sources and how even incorrect data from those sources is used to report ranks on wikipedia: (1) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netaji_Subhas_Institute_of_Technology#Rankings (a)-->Not Listed  (b)-->Rank 64 What wikipedia reports is from outlook --> Rank 8 (2) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birla_Institute_of_Technology_and_Science#Rankings (a)-->42 over all and 3rd among private institutes (b)-->40 What wikipedia reports is "Among all universities in India it was ranked 3rd by Careers360 in 2017" (3) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delhi_Technological_University#Rankings_.3D (a)-->73 over all and 64 among government institutes (b)-->36 What wikipedia reports is "DTU was ranked 72 by Careers360's Top Universities in India 2017, 64 among government institutes" (4) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Institute_of_Technology_Guwahati#Rankings (a)-->22 (b)-->31 and wikipedia indeed says "Careers360 ranked it 22 in India" (5) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Institute_of_Technology_Roorkee (a)-->10 (b)-->25 Now, I don't know if you are from India or not, but you can ask any Indian engineering student or anybody even in hiring process for engineers, is it even possible for IIT-Roorkee and IIT-Guwahati to be below private institutes like SASTRA, SSN, Thiagarajar and new IITs like IIT-Indore etc and institutes like BMS and Manipal over BITS Pilani !!! Hence, there are following problems in what you are doing: 1. You are not quoting from a neutral source, you are quoting from a completely bogus source. 2. The information on wikipedia is incorrect despite of quoting from the respective sources. 3. You have accused me of promotional content and while the problem is that you have taken my corrections to your ego unless of course you are being paid by career360 to use their sources on all wikipedia pages related to college ranks. 4. Furthermore, you are repeatedly putting up a table with only part of the data w.r.t. accompanying text. See more comprehensive tables e.g. for BITs Pilani, VIT Vellore, IIT Guwahati, IIT Roorkee, etc. 5. I was adding ranks for 3 years and had planned to do it for all universities because it is more insightful for the reader. But instead of understanding that you got personal just because I corrected your content!!! Anyhow, I have not modified your content now because anyways you will revert back to old content since it hurts your ego, but hope you can learn some ethics and professionalism before modifying content on wikipedia and misleading readers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gauravdce07 (talk • contribs) 09:39, 29 June 2017 (UTC)
 * I could answer your (1)-(5) with WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS, but since you worked hard on pointing them out I corrected them.

(1) Per this "S. No.(Serial Number) This is a way of listing the colleges. Note: S. No. Does not represent ranking of the college." 64 is not a ranking it is a serial number. Careers360 gives NSIT a rating of "AAAA". I added it to the article, though I never liked the inclusion of rating.

(2) Good catch, I corrected 3 to 42, 3 among private only. As above 40 is not a rating, it is a serial number

(3) I missed that one, corrected 72 to 73. As above, 36 is an a serial number, not a ranking.

(4) As above, 31 is a serial number.

(5) Same

1. I may agree or not, it is still WP:OR. The fact is that de facto consensus is to use Careers360, and in Wikipedia we go by consensus. If you want to change the consensus, post at WP:INEI. Give good enough arguments, and I will even support you.

2. WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. I corrected the errors you pointed out. If you have more, either correct them yourself, or post at my talk page and I will correct them.

3. Don't be ridiculous. Read my user page and look at my list of contributions. I am completely neutral and have no relation to any institute in India. How about you?

4. WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. I try to be as comprehensive as I can but if any current ranking is missing, either add it or post at my talk page and I will add it.

5. Again, de facto consensus is against it and I personally think it is a bad idea. Seek new consensus at WP:INEI.

--Muhandes (talk) 12:53, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 September 2021
QS World Ranking of 2022 is Live. Please update it. Divyansh Singh0516 (talk) 08:25, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 13:05, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 September 2021 (2)
2409:4050:E83:33BE:0:0:8589:EA01 (talk) 13:29, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. — DaxServer (talk to me) 14:49, 9 September 2021 (UTC)