Talk:Delhi Township, Ohio

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The section on CLIMATE and also Wildlife clearly have sufficient referrences to other pages with supporting documentation and citation.
 * Sorry, no they don't. The climate section has no references at all.  Meanwhile, although there are four external links on the wildlife, they're not necessarily related: they provide background to unreferenced assertions.  What if it's near Boone County or various Ohio counties near the bears — unless we have a source that connects them, that is unsuitable OR.  Please cite your sources, or your changes will not long remain.  Nyttend 04:01, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

-Is it not reasonable to assertain that Delhi Township has relatively the same climate of Cincinnati which abutts Delhi? Other pages for suburbs with climate info seem to use the main city as a reference or are not even cited because it is reasonable to associate the two. The wildlife, bear and cougar in particular, will be harder to cite as they are, as I understand, intentionally kept "below the radar" ( I have spoken with a field researcher and others- Mr Bill Riechling of the Eastern Puma Research Network is one person to be specific, if he reads this maybe he could help with a reference). I believe that my references do maintain a flow of logic and are not so attentuated as to make them unreasonable and subject to deletion, there are several other instances of this "logic" in Wikipedia. Here area a couple of relevant links: http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=14944402&BRD=2076&PAG=461&dept_id=384100&rfi=6 http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-97485798.html It's getting way too late now, I'll check back on a later date as I am about to fall asleep here. Thanks Paulsprecker (talk) 05:26, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Hey Nyttend
I'm assuming that you are an administrator (don't need to check, will take your word), regardless, I just wanted to see what your thinking about allowing the Climate section to remain as is with my links (please follow them and you'll see the logic)-as you probably already know, climate references are rare or hard to find for for specific small areas such as Delhi and are more general in nature; therefore, I assume it is reasonable to default to Cincinnati because it is the closest climate referenced and Delhi borders Cincinnati to its Southwest. Maybe I should upload some photos of subtropical indicator plants that grow here such as the Southern Magnolia, mimmosa, crape myrtle, needle palm, etc and photos of some lizards that scurry around Delhi, that might be overdoing it though (and I realize that they don't constitute a climate reference, that's why I refer to Cincinati and the Upper South, etc)? Anyway, I am going to take the liberty in good-faith to remove the "section needs references" thing from the climate section as I believe that you will likely find my reasoning acceptable but please be aware that I am not doing this to get in an edit war with you (that is what "Dispute resolution" is for but I really don't think that is needed here) and I truly hope that I am expressing myself in a reasonable and friendly tone. I will refrain from including the black bear or cougar information (even though I provided a couple of references above) as it is borderline cryptozoologic (but still interesting and is often a topic of local lore- I live here, I know; there was even a presentation at the local library on the topic); I'll differ to you to decide whether this is appropriate material for inclusion in this article (maybe a section for "Local Lore" would be good?). Anyway, I just wanted to see what you thought and get a consensus so that my home township can have a good article here. Best regards as always, Paulsprecker
 * I understand that you're not trying to be hard and that you are trying to be friendly, but the rule stands: it must be sourced. If there aren't sources, either the section gets removed or it's tagged.  If it's hard to find specific references to Delhi Township, then perhaps there shouldn't be a climate thing for Delhi Township.  Nyttend (talk) 04:48, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

-Any Suggestions?- Delhi obviously has a climate and should therefore have a climate section if at all possible; having created and edited several Ohio township articles do you have any suggestions for me? I thought that using what would seem to be sound "logic" would be sufficient to follow the heart of the rule when the letter of the rule is not possible. Maybe I am overlooking some sources? I'll dig deeper. Later,--Paulsprecker (talk) 15:20, 17 July 2008 (UTC) P.s. thanks for the fast response, wow!

O.k., I was able to find one source with climate info in Delhi that didn't pull its info from Wiki (that assuredly wouldn't count as a reference, cyclic citing? - I'm sure you know the type of web-pages I'm referring to), here it is: http://www.bestplaces.net/city/Delhi_township-Ohio.aspx I wonder where they got their info from? It would be GREAT if we could get a real Climatologist to help on this article. I will look for references on "subtropical indicator plants" that are growing here to include them in the section- I can look outside my window right now and see a crape myrtle in bloom and a Southern magnolia- and if I take a walk I would see several mimmosa Albizia julibrissin, aucuba, at least one clump of needle palms which is one of the Hardy palms and several lizards, the wall lizard in particular- none of which are common or exist at all just a little further north of here in Ohio). Delhi's climate is definitely distinctly different than much of the rest of Ohio and I think that this is a pretty interesting fact, the climate is also very likely to have had considerable influence on Delhi being called the "Floral Paradise of Ohio" (see Delhi's main webpage), therefore, leaving this out of Delhi's article would be in my oppinion a disservice. I'll definitley look for more references to add in order to enrich this article but right now this one source and the use of the "logic" that I explained before is all that we apparently have available at this time, and, like I said, I do not think that the association to Cincinnati is so attentuated as to be unreasonable to use in association with Delhi as Delhi is an abutting suburb of Cincinnati, Ohio and therefore it is in my oppinion certainly reasonable to follow the heart of the rule instead of the letter and I hope that you come to agree with me. Let me know what you think; oh, when I edited the section with the updated info your tag disappeared- I think that this tag might be more appropriate for this section and even article, what do you think:

Later gater, --Paulsprecker (talk) 16:38, 17 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, there's an even worse problem with the section, that of being a copyvio; I've cleaned it up. Don't copypaste from other websites!  As far as I know, bestplaces.net is a reliable source, so I haven't at all an argument against its use or the removal of the "unsourced" tag from the section, now that it has this source.  Nyttend (talk) 20:27, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Nyttend, I didn't realize that we are not supposed to copy and paste (plagiarize), which I basically did from bestplace.net. I guess writting in Wiki is the same as writing in college, or any professional work for that matter, where one should create original work with facts substantiated by references and proper citation and if it is a direct quote then proper quoting, citing, etc should be applied. Actually that makes good sense, raising the bar and keeping it there, that's cool. I've actually dusted off my old Prentice Hall Reference Guide from college and now have it ready to use again (I haven't touched it since finishing undegrad school). It is good to think every now and then. Anyway, it's been fun working with you and I hope to see you around the Wiki World again sometime. I am wondering though, will this discussion be deleted or archived now that the issue is resolved so that the article will have a fresh discussion page or will it stay for future reference for ourselves and others, just wondering? Best regards to you, --Paulsprecker (talk) 03:31, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
 * We shouldn't delete it. As it is, there's no need to archive it, since there's not a ton of other discussion going on with this talk page :-)   Nyttend (talk) 04:21, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

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