Talk:Delia Smith

Norwich City incident
Why is "drink-fuelled" always being deleted? This is what the papers said


 * Because of the absence of evidence. The facts can speak for themselves. Ben-w 23:37, 12 January 2006 (UTC)


 * The facts, yes, and they're much aided by this video clip... I don't know how libellous it is to suggest Captain Sobriety had left the building.

Well, I'm a journalist and I've just written something saying '...to quote a drunken Delia Smith, Let's be 'avin you'. Why? Because she actually said on a recent TV programme that she'd had rather too much to drink on that day, and the less said the better. It is, therefore, fact. The programme may even have been her own show about cheating with cookery, can't remember? User: Jaydash, 03:25, 13 June 2008 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.7.62.16 (talk)
 * The article is still a bit mealy mouthed about this. It was obvious to anyone who saw the match coverage that she'd been drinking, though it's debatable if she could be accurately described as 'drunk', which is a high bar. She has never denied having been drinking on this occasion, and was clearly embarrassed by the publicity. Most people at the time found it rather endearing. --Ef80 (talk) 17:03, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

What happened to this page????? Not to long ago it was full of information on her, now it's just about her soccer exploits. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.238.230.110 (talk) 03:48, August 28, 2007 (UTC)
 * It seems that the article was vandalised (see ) twice on May 28. A user reverted one of the edits three minutes later, but accidentally reverted back to the vandal's first edit. I have restored the missing information. Hammer Raccoon 12:47, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

The tone of the entire Football section, and comments such as: " She uses the site to communicate directly with her fans whether they want her to or not, and offers a growing archive of her recipes" seem inappropriate to me... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Paul45 (talk • contribs) 17:06, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Useful source
--Dweller (talk) 12:45, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Millionairess
I heard her say on a radio programme recently, probably BBC Radio4 Womens Hour, that over the years she and her husband had contributed a total of eleven million pounds to Norwich football club. So they must be worth a lot more than that. 78.147.141.7 (talk) 13:26, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Your first point is a non-sequituur as her husband has his own very substantial fortune. I've deleted other parts of your post as Wikipedia is not a soapbox. --Dweller (talk) 13:45, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I have restored the excised portion of the post in question as it is not libellous or in any way a liability to wikipedia and does not constitute an attack on another contributor - therefore, it is not at all worth violating discussion page etiquette to remove. 81.107.151.32 (talk) 21:35, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

According to the daily mail (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2113255/Militant-neo-atheists-busting-gut-drive-Christians-radar-says-Delia-mounts-defence-religious-running-battle.html>) of 11/03/2012, her books have earned her £63 million. 80.42.235.51 (talk) 01:49, 11 March 2012 (UTC)DorothySquiresLovedCock80.42.235.51 (talk) 01:49, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

Waitrose
Should there not be something on the page about Delia (& Heston) being the face of Waitrose? Vuvuzela2010 (talk) 00:22, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
 * ✅ This is worth a brief mention, I have tried not to make it too spammy though.-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 08:25, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

Date of Delia Smith's retirement from television
This article says that Delia Smith retired from television in 2003, but it has been on the news in early February 2013 that now was the date of her retirement from television (SOURCE: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2273578/Delia-Smith-Turning-TV.html#axzz2K4lfcOXg). ACEOREVIVED (talk) 00:56, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

Page is looking better now
That is looking better now the article does say that Delia Smith retired from television in February 2013 - perhaps I just missed this when I looked at the article in the past! ACEOREVIVED (talk) 11:16, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 10 July 2013 please correct spelling of my name from Barry Buller to Barry Bullough
please correct spelling of my name from Barry Buller to Barry Bullough

Barrysbull (talk) 08:20, 10 July 2013 (UTC)


 * ✅ This looks OK and checks out in a web search.-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 08:46, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

Family Fare link in Cook, author and TV personality section
Incorrect link found.

This link takes you to an entry about an American supermarket chain and not the television programme of the same name. 79.76.180.129 (talk) 23:26, 3 September 2016 (UTC)
 * ✅, thanks for pointing this out.-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 05:23, 4 September 2016 (UTC)

Edit requests
Hello Delia's mother's name - correct spelling Etty (Beladown17 (talk) 14:24, 14 June 2017 (UTC))
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Izno (talk) 13:47, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

I am Delia's agent. You can contact me if you wish - I can provide details. (Beladown17 (talk) 14:35, 14 June 2017 (UTC)) (Beladown17 (talk) 14:24, 14 June 2017 (UTC))


 * This confirms a conflict of interest. It also leads to issues with WP:AUTOPROB, because there is a need to cite reliable secondary sources.-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 18:17, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

Name
Incorrect spelling of Delia's mother's name - should read Etty (no E) please change (Beladown17 (talk) 14:25, 14 June 2017 (UTC))
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Izno (talk) 13:49, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

I am Delia's agent. All information is correct. Do you need to contact me? (Beladown17 (talk) 14:25, 14 June 2017 (UTC)) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Beladown17 (talk • contribs) 14:21, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

Cook, author and TV personality
6th paragraph This led to her three Cookery Course books which was combined into an omnibus edition and to date has sold over 6 million copies. (Beladown17 (talk) 14:25, 14 June 2017 (UTC))

Cook, author and TV personality
Please add a new paragraph after the Swap Shop paragraph

Over the next 20 years Delia continued to create and present television programmes with accompanying books for the BBC. These included One is Fun in 1985. The hugely needed, and popular, television series Delia Smith's Christmas aired in 1990. Followed by Delia's Summer and Winter Collections 1993 and 1995. (Beladown17 (talk) 14:26, 14 June 2017 (UTC))

Cook, author and TV personality
Please add: In 2001 the word 'Delia' is defined in the Collins' English Dictionary as "the recipes or style of cooking of British cookery writer Delia Smith. A Delia dish" Delia was quietly pleased 'getting a definition in a dictionary is not bad for someone who can't spell'. (Beladown17 (talk) 14:26, 14 June 2017 (UTC))

Cook, author and TV personality
Please add

Delia returned to the tv screens in 2009 with Delia's Classic Christmas - a one-off special to celebrate the 20th anniversary of her first Christmas series and book. (Beladown17 (talk) 14:27, 14 June 2017 (UTC)) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Beladown17 (talk • contribs) 13:10, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

Cook, author and TV Personality
11th paragraph

Please change to read:

...Delia Smith's Winter Collection (1995) sold nearly 2.5 million copies hardback (Beladown17 (talk))

Religion
Please add:

at the end of the paragraph. Proceeds from all three books go to different charities.

I am Delia's agent and confirm this (Beladown17 (talk) 14:59, 14 June 2017 (UTC))

(Beladown17 (talk) 14:28, 14 June 2017 (UTC)) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Beladown17 (talk • contribs) 13:22, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Izno (talk) 13:49, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

Business
First paragraph

Drop the sentence Smith continues to be a consultant for Seven Publishing which now publishes the magazine

Finish sentence sold New Crane Publishing in 2005.

Second paragraph:

Whole paragraph to be reworded as below as very out of date:

In March 2001 Smith launched her website, Delia Online. The site hosts a large archive of Delia's recipes and Cookery School videos. There is a Q&A section for help and advice with Delia's recipes, information on ingredients and the Delia Online Bakeware and Equipment Range. (Beladown17 (talk) 14:28, 14 June 2017 (UTC)) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Beladown17 (talk • contribs) 13:29, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

Awards
Please add:

In 2013 Delia was presented with a BAFTA Special Award in honour of Delia's outstanding contribution to television cookery and services to broadcasting.

Andrew Newman, Chair of BAFTA’s Television Committee, said: “Delia Smith is one of the most influential voices in television cookery and has played an important role in not only pioneering the genre in television but also shaping the perception of cooking in the nation’s consciousness.

“Delia was the first TV cook to be recognised by her first name alone and her achievements have paved the way for today’s cooking programmes and formats. It is unlikely that Jamie, Nigella, Gordon, The Hairy Bikers, and much-loved competitions such as The Great British Bake Off or Masterchef would have happened without her contribution,” he added.

On hearing the news, Delia Smith said: “After the initial shock, I’m very proud to receive this honour from BAFTA as I've been a passionate movie buff ever since I was a small child, and television broadcasting has been a huge part of my life. So thank you so much BAFTA!” (Beladown17 (talk) 14:29, 14 June 2017 (UTC)) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Beladown17 (talk • contribs) 13:35, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

Publications Cookery Books
Please add: Family Fayre (1973, 1974, 1975)

Please delete Cakes, Bakes and Steaks (1977) incorrect

Please add: Delia Smith's Complete Cookery Course (1982, latest edition 2012)

Please add Delia's Vegetarian Collection (2002)

Please delete: The Delia Collection - Puddings (2006)

Please delete: Delia's Kitchen Garden (February 2007)

Please add Delia's to How to Cheat at Cooking (February 2008)

Please add Delia's Cakes (2013)

(Beladown17 (talk) 14:29, 14 June 2017 (UTC))

Cook, author and TV Personality
Please insert after the new dictionary reference which is on a previous Editing Talk page.

In 1980 Delia put together the Food Aid cookery book as her contribution to the Band Aid charity. In 1997, she created Delia's Red Nose Collection for Comic Relief which raised over £1,250,000 for the charity. Again, in 2001, at the insistence of Dawn French and Jennifer Saunders, she wrote Delia's Chocolate Collection for Comic Relief. The booklet which accompanied a 5-part series of hilarious tv shorts, became an instant bestseller. (Beladown17 (talk) 14:29, 14 June 2017 (UTC))

Publications Cookery Books
Please add Delia's Red Nose Collection (1997 for Comic Relief)

Delia's Chocolate Collection (2001 for Comic Relief)

(Beladown17 (talk) 14:30, 14 June 2017 (UTC))

Television series guide
Please add

Delia's Classic Christmas: 1 edition 2009

(Beladown17 (talk) 14:30, 14 June 2017 (UTC))

Reply
It's hard to address all of these concerns unless there is a reliable source to support them.-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 15:00, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Note that I have grouped all the edit requests together, as well as removing the spammed templates. Once the verifiability issues are resolved, the only remaining template should be changed back to the normal edit request template. Regards, VB00 (talk) 08:28, 17 June 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 June 2018
Consider amending all links to e.g. Nottingham University to the correct name, the University of Nottingham, such as for Ms Smith's degree. 95.150.239.157 (talk) 18:08, 25 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done, though I only found that one link. Please reopen the request if there are others I missed. &#8209;&#8209; El Hef  ( Meep? ) 18:57, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

Template Needs To Be Changed
You see, Delia Smith is a living person, and the template on top of the page needs to be changed, because this page is about a biography of a living person. 86.29.64.45 (talk) 16:29, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
 * It makes clear that she is still alive, Biography|living=yes, so the template is OK.-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 16:35, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

I know right Ian? However, the template has not been fully changed. Instead, you should replace 'refimprove' with 'BLP sources'. 86.29.64.45 (talk) 06:39, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I think I get what you mean. I've changed the template at the top of the article page to Template:BLP sources. The article is currently semi-protected due to vandalism.-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 07:16, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

Premier League
It states under Business interests, under Football: Smith has developed other business interests outside of her culinary ventures, notably a majority shareholding in the Premier League football team Norwich City, with her husband.

Norwich City were relegated from the Premier League last season and now reside in the championship, so I believe this article should reflect that.


 * ✅: This was correct at the time, but they were relegated to the Championship in July 2020.-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 16:38, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Lead (and only) image
The image of Smith with her husband was kindly added by User:AdamCoquery here. At the upload page for the image there is a request for a crop to show just Smith. But an attempt to do this shows the image is not of sufficient quality to provide a usable portrait of her alone. I have asked a question at the upload Talk page to see if the original uploader, User:Dweller, has a higher quality original. An internet search for copyright-free images returns nothing usable. Many thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:35, 26 December 2023 (UTC)


 * It could be cropped, but might not work very well if it was. It's probably better to keep it as is. Delia Smith is another of the "Oh dear we can't find any good copyright free images" celebrities.-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 16:44, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
 * By all means also have a try. I was left with an image that was, in my view, so poor it would be embarrassing. The image is only 32 KB to begin with... Martinevans123 (talk) 17:10, 26 December 2023 (UTC)

I no longer have the original, I'm afraid, but it's probable that I uploaded the file in the same size as I had it, so would almost certainly have no higher resolution anyway. --Dweller (talk) Old fashioned is the new thing! 10:24, 28 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Many thanks for clarifying. Never mind. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:41, 28 December 2023 (UTC)