Talk:Delichon

Haemoproteus

 * Should the infection of this genus be called pseudomalaria and not malaria? See Haemoproteus. Snowman (talk) 15:05, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
 * No, it's an unsourced Wikipedia claim, not WP:RS. I've never seen it called that in any of the searches I've made for parasites of any of the bird FAs, it's always avian malaria
 * OK. you can not believe everything you read on the wiki. Snowman (talk) 17:43, 19 December 2009 (UTC)


 * "H. prognei" - its name suggests the Purple Martin (Progne subis) is affected by this paracite. Is the link to the "Delichon" by known infected examples or by well thought out extrapolation? Snowman (talk) 15:05, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
 * The Manzal ref (25) makes it clear that D. urbica is a host. I assume it infects most swallow species, and the Purple Martin is unsourced or from US studies  Jimfbleak -  talk to me?  17:31, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
 * OK. You can not believe everything you read on the wiki, especially if no reliable source. Snowman (talk) 17:43, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

Name
Should this page not be called House martin, because all three species share the name? -- Kim van der Linde at venus 23:29, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
 * This was suggested at GTC. The problem is that Common House Martin is commonly known as just House Martin over much of its non-Asian range, which invites confusion. When I pointed that out, the suggestion was to have House martin (genus), but personally I think that's clunky and ugly, especially for an FA and associated FT.  Jimfbleak -  talk to me?  06:48, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, that is true for the other species as well. As long as there is one species, people will call it the house martin. What we have here is that the European bird is being promoted over the other species. The reason we have specified names for all species is to get away from that. -- Kim van der Linde at venus 17:49, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't understand how using "Delichon" is promoting the European name more than using "house martin", just the opposite I would have thought. When the suggestion was first made, I asked the project, but there seemed little interest either way.  Jimfbleak -  talk to me?  06:45, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
 * No, having House martin as a redirect to one of the three species is basically saying that that species has the primacy on the name, while the others need a modifier. My point is that ion the realm of the Asian House Martin, it is just called a House Martin as well, and people looking for house martin from that region end up with the wrong species. I think it is better to have them end up at the genus page and not the Common House Martin species page. -- Kim van der Linde at venus 20:24, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I agree on changing the name to House martin. It would make it consistent with the Crag martin article about the genus although it's odd that Crag Martin links to the species page because of the capitalised letter M. Perhaps, a similar compromise can be used by redirecting House martin and House Martin to their respective pages? Vctrbarbieri (talk) 00:34, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
 * I decided on changing the redirect for House martin due to how Crag martin handles it and because of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Birds#Naming . Apparently House martin isn't a proper noun and so should refer to the group of species whilst House Martin is and so should refer to a specific species. Vctrbarbieri (talk) 00:50, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

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WP:URFA/2020
File:Delichonmap.png is unsourced. It was based on another file which itself was "self-made; compiled from several bird books". IUCN has slightly different maps: BirdLife seems to offer identical maps (e.g. Northern House Martin Delichon urbicum). A455bcd9 (talk) 11:03, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Northern House Martin: main differences in southern India, around the UAE, southern Saudi Arabia, in Ethiopia, in South Africa
 * Nepal House Martin: okay-ish, similar but not identical
 * Eastern House Martin: lagopodum not on our map
 * Asian House Martin: fairly different