Talk:Delta and Dawn

Recommendations for improvement

 * 1) Introduce more reliable sources.
 * 2) Build a map of their journey with key dates/stops annotated. (Good map exists at Following Whales Up a Creek)
 * 3) See if other public domain pictures are available through WikiCommons or could be obtained from Flikr. moreno oso (talk) 05:37, 14 August 2010 (UTC)


 * 1) Scrap this worthless article.  A couple of un-rendered blubber-sacks is not noteworthy.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.127.176.129 (talk) 13:20, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

AGF revert
The citation provided used the piped in name. Wikipedia, when searched, and another whale article suggest that this should be wikilinked to North_Pacific_right_whale. Rather than using that Eastern North Pacific link, which is part of the main article, I went with the first search as provided by Wikipedia. moreno oso (talk) 06:46, 14 August 2010 (UTC)


 * I think you might be confused about the distinction between a species and a stock. A stock is a group of animals which all belong to the same species and are in the same geographic area or are related to each other.


 * Delta and Dawn belong to the humpback whale species. They live in the eastern north Pacific Ocean, so they also belong to the Eastern North Pacific Stock of humpback whales. There are many other species living in the eastern north Pacific, including North Pacific right whales. Delta and Dawn are not North Pacific right whales; they are humpback whales. When the source says that the "whales were part of the Eastern North Pacific Stock", it is implied - and I am 100% sure of this - that the whales are part of the the Eastern North Pacific Stock of humpback whales, not the Eastern North Pacific Stock of right whales.


 * The source goes on to say that "Delta and Dawn's journey is thought to be the longest ever taken by this species inland in fresh water. " The term "species" here means humpback whales. The term "Eastern North Pacific Stock" is not the name of a species. Clayoquot (talk | contribs) 04:51, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
 * No, there was no mistake. moreno oso (talk) 04:56, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Could you please explain that? All that Clayoquot says appears to be true; if those whales are humpbacks, they can't be right whales. Ucucha 08:15, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
 * It's called as per my original post here. I had cites and other work I was going to post regarding the whales. But, since "buddy" decided to trip me up for the third time after I tried to get him to do more work on this article, I dumped all the cites and even the map I had started work on. moreno oso (talk) 12:18, 15 August 2010 (UTC)