Talk:Democracy and Progress Party

DEVA is a center-right neoliberal party
DEVA party isn't a party that is centrist and classic liberal. Babacan himself had regret the classic liberalism at a documentary ( 12:45), saying that "government intervention is needed for liberalism to work well". Also, his party program supports a very similar impact to what right wing parties such as AKP and DP have, showing its full support to employers rather then the employee. That is a center-right, and even a right-wing party if you consider its political programs and one man politics that is built around Babacan. --Comrade-yutyo (talk) 09:30, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

In an interview with Ruşen Çakır on 11 March 2019, he says on YouTube (YouTube / time 35:33): "We want to start a political movement that the society will ally over here." Will you be on this side, on this side? " The parties have no meaning ... There is a great need in the political spectrum, right in the middle, and our goal is to meet that great need. We set out for it. " Mulayim adisert (talk) 16:44, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

CORRECTION: *In 2020 Mulayim adisert (talk) 16:49, 1 June 2020 (UTC)


 * That is just classic neoliberal rhetoric that shows itself as a centrist political view due to its status-quo. What he says to the general audience doesn't need to be necessarily compatible with his agenda, which is well known by his program and past actions that he still mentions as good, and none of those actions nor his party's program is centrist. DEVA is a neoliberal capitalist party. If you refer to him as a centrist regarding his "social views", then that isn't politically correct because the left-right political index is mostly about the economic views, and neoliberalism, exploitation of the working class and state encouragement of free market economy, is clearly on the right side of the spectrum. --Comrade-yutyo (talk) 18:23, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

Stop Whitewashing
That is a neoliberal party, and very far from classic liberalism in any means. Babacan himself has said that the liberalism isn't fair without government intervention. Please stop whitewashing the article by showing it as something that it isn't. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Comrade-yutyo (talk • contribs) 11:42, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

Conservatism as ideology
I don't think one tweet can be used to indicate the party is conservative. Besides, Twitter is not a reliable source. There have been mini edit-wars over it, so let's just discuss it on the talk page instead. David O. Johnson (talk) 23:12, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

DEVA made a great shift and became a big tent party
In recent months DEVA did quite much changes in its inner politics and policies that it stands by. Its no longer a neoliberal center-right party but a big tent one that includes different alignments like social democrats, ecologists and even pirates. --Comrade-yutyo (talk) 18:10, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
 * That is WP:OR Shadow4dark (talk) 18:25, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Just wondering, what are your sources? Benlittlewiki (talk) 22:52, 21 June 2021 (UTC)