Talk:Demographic threat/Archive 1

Eurabia
I don't recall whether the exact term "demographic threat" is used much, but a similar fear is also voiced by certain doom-mongers who warn of a Eurabia dystopic scenario, in Europe. There should be some mention of that in this article, I think. Going further, I wouldn't be surprised if this type of worry is not limited to Arab/Muslim versus non-Arab/non-Muslim groups - what about the growing (nominally) Catholic population in Northern Ireland, which might be of concern to some Unionists there, for example? Note that I am not making any comment about whether these fears or projections are justified concerns here - merely pointing out some connections that might be worth putting into the article.—greenrd 02:33, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I've converted this into a redirect as the topic is already covered in the Arab citizens of Israel article. I'm not against eventually splitting the article, but at the moment, its not really my interest in doing so.  --Abnn 08:39, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Israel
This is a legitimate article, but it needs a better title. There are alleged demographic threats from minorities in several parts of the world e.g. Catholics in Northern Ireland. PatGallacher 18:40, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, it's improper to create an article on such a general subject that focuses on Israel instead of presenting a global view. In addition to the example above, Muslims in Europe and Hispanics in the US are also relevant to this topic. Beit Or 21:57, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I changed the title to Demographic threat (Israel) to specify its use there. I'm not aware of its use by other countries, but if someone wants to start an article entitled Demographic threat that explores its use worldwide, they are welcome to. I would ask only that they link to this article as well.  T i a m u t talk 12:46, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

global concept
The concept is used in discussions in many countries. The model for this article ought to be Right of return and Right to exist, concepts that cimilarly apply to many countries.Historicist (talk) 13:34, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

"Demographic threat"
I have confined my examples to sources that use this exact phrase, and specified page numbers.Historicist (talk) 14:26, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
 * This is good. However, the article is still dominated by a discussion of Israel and the section on Israel is mostly original research. Beit Or 20:13, 22 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Where is the original research in the section on Israel? I see OR in the other sections as they are based not on secondary sources discussing the use of the term, but rather primary sources simply using the term. In fact, they seem merely to have been appended here to draw attention away from the preponderance of the usage of the term in Israel. Strangely, it reminds me of that Allegations of apartheid] series that followed the failure of trying to get the article on Israeli apartheid deleted. Kicking up a lot of dust but nothing of substance.  T i a m u t talk 06:42, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Absolutely pathetically biased Wikipedia article
It is so ridiculous and ludicrous that an article simply called 'demographic threat' would be so heavily dedicated to telling false information about Israel and Israel-bashing, as though just about every country in the world did not view some population or ethnic or religious group as a demographic threat. Many people say Wikipedia is the laughing stock of the Internet, and would not dare to proffer a Wikipedia article as a reliable reference. I think Wikipedia deserves grudging respect. Wikipedia has effectively taken over the Internet by running the same articles multiple times via proxy sites. That's no mean feat. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.68.95.65 (talk) 18:47, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
 * What exactly is wrong about what it says about Israel? You're going to need to be more specific than "It says stuff I disagree with about Israel!" And certainly with a better defense than "Other countries do it!" as if that isn't obvious from the fact that other countries are included on the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.189.134.229 (talk) 09:47, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
 * How about a defense like, "Other countries' entries here aren't so damn long and detailed as the one on Israel," you anti-Zionist pieces of shit? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.65.181.17 (talk) 18:34, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
 * If Israel and its citizens had behaved differently over the years, the article would be shorter. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Relates (talk • contribs) 03:03, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Is it Wikipedia's goal to crack down on Zionism and serve the Arab imperialist agenda? Is this Wikipedia or Palestinazipedia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.65.54.224 (talk) 00:52, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

Non-neutral POV
There's some pretty egregious non-NPOV in this article. Especially in the section on Serbia/Kosovo. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.189.134.229 (talk) 09:47, 9 June 2010 (UTC)


 * From a Biblical standpoint the Bible tells everything we are seeing. Israel has to be the center of the conflict like it was in the article.  Many other countries were mentioned however, individuals made statements like "Israel bashing" and "Jewish" people need to populate Israel with having more children.  The argument comes down to Muslims - Ishmael and Christians - Isaac.  Russia and the eastern world have fought missionaries and Christianity for years, and the world is rapidly becoming Muslim with Christians being bashed for protecting the Jewish community.  Putin has definitely stated how he will respond with Crimea and the Ukraine situation. "Harshly", we know that the U.S. is a Christian nation and will not bomb schools and other safe places.  Russia will. Crimea is just the beginning people! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Philomath2004 (talk • contribs) 08:29, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

Australia
Do we need an entry for Australia, which is expected to be an asian country by 2100? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.216.105.54 (talk) 12:21, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
 * If you can find WP:Reliable sources that say so. CarolMooreDC 14:58, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

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