Talk:Demographics of Asian Americans

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Untitled
Hi all. FYI, I removed the following from the article:

"Such trends [high median income] are less common among Asians emigrating to the United States from southeast Asian countries such as Laos and Cambodia, among others. Many of these immigrants can be considered refugees from Communist and totalitarian states and often do not have the educational or socioeconomic advantages of other Asian Americans."

I removed this because most immigrants who come from Southeast Asia are in fact not coming from totalitarian regimes as e.g. Cambodia is a parliamentary democracy and so are many other SE Asian countries like Thailand, Malaysia, Indonesia, Singapore, etc. Many Nothern Asian countries, e.g. China and North Korea, are totalitarian and communist. So I removed the part above because it is factually incorrect. If you have any objections, please bring it up here.

Knowledge-is-power (talk) 04:09, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I believe that the Cambodia reference is regarding those who immigrated to the United States as refugees during the Khmer Rouge period of its history. Furthermore, many Southeast Asians have migrated to the United States as refugees from the former Republic of Vietnam and Laos. Although the inclusion of all Southeast Asia as under communist or totalitarian states is perhaps to inclusionary, perhaps the content can be reworded, and then re-added to the article. The simple fact, which is easily cite-able, that the growth of Southeast Asians in America due to a large part of those refugees resettling in the United States, should be mentioned. Furthermore, a quick search of the article finds no mention of this. Of course it can be also argued that this content can be moved to a more appropriate article, such as the immigration trends section of the Asian American article, especially seeing how this article appears to be a sub-article of the aforementioned article. --RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 10:47, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

Non-inclusive population figures
There is a dispute regarding the accuracy of data found in the section List of US States by Population of Asian Americans, the dispute is related to other content found on the Filipino American, Indian American, Chinese American, and Asian American articles; a discussion regarding this disputed content can be found here. --RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 00:24, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

I would like to hear from RightCowLeftCoast his/her reason for claiming that the data on the table is factually inaccurate. The table has been compiled from data sourced from a US Census Website. A caveat stating that data for Multi-Racial Asian Americans have not been included in the table has been added below the table. Please let me know what exactly you are referring to when you claim the data to be "factually inaccurate". --76.218.92.239 (talk) 04:50, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Please see the discussion regarding the disputed content at the linked discussion regarding the disputed content found: here. Repeat of dispute unnecessary on this article's talk page. --RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 17:34, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

Orphaned references in Demographics of Asian Americans
I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Demographics of Asian Americans's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "c2010": From White American: 2010 United States Census statistics From White Hispanic and Latino Americans: Overview of Race and Hispanic Origin: 2010 From Hispanic and Latino Americans:  

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT ⚡ 19:44, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Is there a new 2010 Asian population percentage map yet?
The one on the page is a bit outdated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.224.81.235 (talk) 02:04, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
 * There is and can be found here in this document on page 10. I, or someone else, need to find a way to copy the map onto an image file so it can be used here and on other related articles.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 18:45, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

Done! --Sushieater2 (talk) 20:16, 13 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 01:34, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

Sexuality
I have reverted a removal of verified content that is supported by a reliable source. There was no edit summary left, and there was not reason given why it falls outside of the scope of the article, and ask that a consensus be reached before it is removed. If one wishes others may use Template:Please see in accordance with WP:CANVASS to notify others such as past editors of this article, related wikiprojects, etc.

In defense of the content, it is my opinion that the content falls within the scope of this article. The source speaks broadly about Asian Americans and is as relative to it, demographically, as the religious affiliation of Asian Americans. Removal should not be based on WP:IDONTLIKEIT.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 19:28, 5 November 2012 (UTC)


 * I don't agree with this content either. As stated in my edit summary when I removed it. There are several problems with the content:


 * (1) It's trivial and undue weight would apply here (2) the source is not a serious study of the subject matter and definitely not a scientific study, but is instead a Gallop Poll which can have high deviations and (3) there is not a complete enough analysis of "Sexuality" to justify a section (again undue weight on one study). It's very troubling to base the conclusions of such a matter one a single poll. Karipens393 (talk) 21:25, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
 * I have reverted the bold removal of verified content per WP:BRD. blanking verified content can be considered vandalism. The source is a reliable source, and the content is worded neutrally. It falls within the scope of this sub-article, in that it is a demographic of Asian Americans. As far as weight, it is listed lower in the article, and is worded in a brief and summarized manor, so I do not agree that it has been given undue weight. Perhaps WP:LGBT may be interested in this.
 * I will notify appropriate wikiprojects per WP:CANVASS.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 17:24, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, please notify the appropriate wikiprojects as I would like to hear input from others on this. And it's not vandalism as I did give several relevant thoughts to consider. Please see the above. I would like to hear some discussion against or for the points I made in order to determine whether this content belongs in the article. Karipens393 (talk) 20:59, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

I took a look at the source (Archive). It explicitly says "4.3 percent of Asians" identify as LGBT, and that should be noted in the Wikipedia article. The news article from WTOP makes no other statements about Asians who identify as LGBT. WhisperToMe (talk) 08:02, 15 April 2013 (UTC) "According to the survey, which was conducted between June and September, 4.6 percent of African-Americans identify as LGBT, 4 percent of Hispanics, 4.3 percent of Asians and 3.2 percent of whites."
 * That is also true and another problem with the content. An editor to this article wrote "this is greater than the estimated 3.4 percent of American adults that self identify as LGBT in the total population" however the source states " 4.6 percent of African-Americans identify as LGBT, 4 percent of Hispanics, 4.3 percent of Asians and 3.2 percent of whites." So really, every population except for whites is greater than the estimated 3.4 percent who identify as LGBT in the general population which makes not just the statement questionable but also the poll's sampling methods as well. Karipens393 (talk) 23:43, 16 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Both statements are true based on what the source says:"A new Gallup survey, touted as the largest of its kind, estimates that 3.4 percent of American adults identify as lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender."


 * Are we actually questioning that 4.3 is greater than 3.4?
 * While it is true that non-white demographic groups have a higher percentage of individuals who identify as LGBT than the total estimated population, the non-white non-hispanic population do make up a minority of the population. If we want we can use the direct source information instead.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 04:26, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
 * I'll assume you have no problem with adding the other percentages to put this in context, since the article already does that with other statistics. Karipens393 (talk) 17:03, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
 * No problem.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 20:55, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

Historical percentages
I have boldly moved the historical percentages content to the Asian Pacific American article. The diffs can be seen here: The reasoning for this is, since the subject of the table is Asian Pacific Islanders, the content should be in that article, rather than this article whose primary subject is Asian Americans, and is a sub-article of the article of that subject.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 04:45, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
 * removal from this article
 * addition to the other article

un-removed table
Per WP:BRD I have unremoved a table. Content appears to be from Table A-1 from pages 29-33 from this source. There is more up to date information here, but this is an abstract, with links to more detailed information. Also there is this source which we should look at.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 06:13, 17 October 2014 (UTC)--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 06:12, 17 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Contrary to WP:V, the data in the table is not in that source. If that is indeed the source, then it is WP:SYNTHESIS to extract raw data and present it in the voice of wikipedia.  If a secondary source cannot be found which highlights that specific family of data, then it should be removed per WP:UNDUE. aprock (talk) 16:29, 20 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Removing per policy concerns above. aprock (talk) 16:50, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
 * The source is from the U.S. Government making it public domain, and the verifying source is clearly provided by the footnote. Therefore, there is no policy issue.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 19:52, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
 * As noted several times, the data in the table is not a source. Similarly, the content in no way summarizes the source, and represents WP:SYNTH.  I'll give you several days to try and sort out the verifiability and synthesis issues. aprock (talk) 19:57, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Please see WP:AVOIDYOU, please stop wikihounding me.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 20:09, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

No clue what you're talking about. If you really think there is an issue, bring it to the appropriate noticeboard. aprock (talk) 21:49, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
 * First step is to ask the editor to stop, thus why I have not taken it to a noticeboard. I am hoping that by asking, that it need not escalate.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 04:17, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Again, no clue what you're talking about. If you want to discuss this further, I suggest you take it to my user page. aprock (talk) 04:31, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

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URL links do not show data — can't verify data for 50 states, DC and Puerto Rico
The URL links in the references at the top of the columns in the "U.S. states and territories" section (references #101, #102, #103, #104, #105, #106 and #107) do not show any data. For example, the link provided in the reference ''["Total Population: Chinese alone or in any combination". 2010 Census Summary File 2. United States Census Bureau.]'' (the Chinese column) does not show any data — the website only displays the total population of the United States. Therefore, there is no way to verify whether the data (in the table) for the 50 states, DC and Puerto Rico is correct. The links were retrieved in 2012; it's possible that the links have changed since then.

I looked up American FactFinder's Nebraska data, and the displayed data for Filipinos was 2,741, not the 4,900 displayed in the table in the article. That may be because the 2,741 number is for Asians alone (i.e. not in combination). In any case, I could not find any reference with the 4,900 number. And that is just one state: multiply this issue by 52.

(The Nebraska source: American FactFinder. Profile of General Population and Housing Characteristics: 2010 Demographic Profile Data). LumaP15 (talk) 03:24, 10 November 2018 (UTC)

2020 Census update
Could be worthwhile to update to 2020 Census 142.186.93.240 (talk) 13:53, 25 January 2022 (UTC)