Talk:Demolition of al-Baqi

Copyedit
, thank-you for your recent copyedit of this article. I was watching it as an example to see if I would have caught all the changes (not quite, as it turns out). I have a couple notes, though maybe these could be better answered by someone more familiar with the article and its subject matter. (Unfortunately, I have not had great luck following the sources.) I'd appreciate any thoughts on these - Reidgreg (talk) 17:03, 16 October 2016 (UTC)
 * The translation "the field of thorny threes" seems questionable to me. Should it be "thorny trees" from boxthorn?
 * Could the list of destroyed domes be made a little clearer? Particularly the list at the end of Second demolition?  I like to use semicolons to separate groups in complex lists but I'm not absolutely positive of the intended meaning to do it myself.
 * In the first paragraph of Motivations, is making a typo of marking?
 * With Shia Imams, should Imams be capitalized? It seems to me that in the generic sense, as a title not specifically connected to a name, it should be lowercase and thus Shia imams.
 * Thanks for copyediting the article. Here are your answers:
 * Yes, it should be trees.
 * Whats vague regarding the domes?
 * Yes, "marking" is wrong and it should be 'making'.
 * "Imam" initiates with an uppercase letter.
 * Thanks. -- M h hossein   talk 05:13, 17 October 2016 (UTC)
 * For the capitalization, I was looking at MOS:JOBTITLES and the article Imam, but certainly I understand that there's context of application and style choices, so I'll leave that to you
 * If I'm being honest, the names are unfamiliar to me so I'm relying on the punctuation. Maybe it's the way commas are used before distinguishing the father and mother but dashes before the uncles and son. The inconsistency in format might make the reader question the intended meaning.  You could put a dash for the parents, but MOS recommends against more than two dashes in a sentence.  I personally prefer semicolons and might have written it as Some of the destroyed domes included those of: Abdullah ibn Abdul-Muttalib and Aminah, Muhammad's father and mother, respectively; Isma'il ibn Jafar; Abbas ibn Abd al-Muttalib and Hamza ibn Abdul-Muttalib, both uncles of Muhammad; Ibrahim ibn Muhammad, Muhammad's son; Malik ibn Anas; Uthman ibn Affan; four Shia Imams;[10] and 7,000 people who supposedly had ties with the prophet Muhammad.  I added punctuation after the final and for consistency with the rest of the article (serial commas, though in this case it's a semi-colon).  I'm assuming the "supposedly had ties" is meant to refer to the 7,000 people but not the Shia Imams. (Could a semicolon be confused with any Arabic accented characters?)

You're welcome. I'm trying to learn more about copyediting and I appreciate the opportunity to discuss this with you. - Reidgreg (talk) 16:07, 17 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Reidgreg: Sorry for my belated response. Please change the text as you have written in green, that seems better to my eyes. Shia Imams are descendants of the prophet and have ties with him by default so the term "supposedly had ties" refer to the 7,000 people. Btw, I don't think a semicolon be confused with an accented Arabic character. Thank you again. -- M h hossein   talk 11:49, 24 October 2016 (UTC)
 * No worries,, I was doing copyedit on a half-dozen articles last week so I had a full plate. I made the changes as mentioned, and also put the block quote in a quote template (for future generation of metadata).  I appreciate the opportunity to help with an important article like this one. - Reidgreg (talk) 16:35, 24 October 2016 (UTC)

Failed Merger proposal
It was proposed to merge this article to Al-Baqi'. The users opposed the suggestion. -- M h hossein   talk 13:52, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

Some points needed
Hey Mehdi ghaed. Regarding your recent edit; The material is parts of some one's memo, so it should be attributed to him. However, we need to see if that man is notable enough to be credited here? Btw, please provide the link to the exact pages supporting the material. Thanks. -- M h hossein   talk 13:09, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
 * I think that the person's memo could be considered as a valid sources for the article. It is the experience and description by Hamoudi which other article also refers to it.please see this article which refers to the memo as important source for the subject of Baqi:http://toumar.info/fa/note/%D9%85%D8%B5%DB%8C%D8%A8%D8%AA-%D9%85%D8%B3%D9%84%D9%85%DB%8C%D9%86-%D8%A8%D8%A7%D8%B2%D8%AE%D9%88%D8%A7%D9%86%DB%8C-%D9%88%D8%A7%DA%A9%D9%86%D8%B4-%D9%86%DB%8C%D9%85-%D9%82%D8%B1%D9%86-%D9%BE%DB%8C%D8%B4-%D9%85%D8%B3%D9%84%D9%85%D8%A7%D9%86%D8%A7%D9%86-%D9%BE%D8%A7%DA%A9%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%A7%D9%86-%D8%A8%D9%87-%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%B1%DB%8C%D8%A8-%D8%A8%D9%82%DB%8C%D8%B9/--m,sharaf (talk) 17:17, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
 * I can't open that URL, does that really work? Also. you forgot to provide direct link to the mentioned book page. -- M h hossein   talk 11:55, 18 April 2017 (UTC)
 * URL This is the http://toumar.info/fa/note/%D9%85%D8%B5%DB%8C%D8%A8%D8%AA-%D9%85%D8%B3%D9%84%D9%85%DB%8C%D9%86-%D8%A8%D8%A7%D8%B2%D8%AE%D9%88%D8%A7%D9%86%DB%8C-%D9%88%D8%A7%DA%A9%D9%86%D8%B4-%D9%86%DB%8C%D9%85-%D9%82%D8%B1%D9%86-%D9%BE%DB%8C%D8%B4-%D9%85%D8%B3%D9%84%D9%85%D8%A7%D9%86%D8%A7%D9%86-%D9%BE%D8%A7%DA%A9%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%A7%D9%86-%D8%A8%D9%87-%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%B1%DB%8C%D8%A8-%D8%A8%D9%82%DB%8C%D8%B9/ URL, note that the website is in Farsi/Persian. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 12:06, 18 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks of the user Emir of Wikipedia for correcting the URL. The reference information is as below:


 * --m,sharaf (talk) 14:25, 18 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Sorry m,sharaf, I have hid your edit until you can show us where they are written in the book. I could not find them in the book! -- M h hossein   talk 18:24, 18 April 2017 (UTC)

GA link change
Hey User:Aircorn, I think this article matches best among Philosophy and religion articles rather than Architecture ones to which you changed the link. Read the article and you see that it is talking about a religious cause. -- M h hossein   talk 12:26, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
 * To be honest it doesn't really matter much. I was just trying to fit it into a category at WP:Good Articles. If you let me know which one under Good articles/Philosophy and religion it fits in best I will move it. AIRcorn (talk) 18:28, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
 * If you look at other articles on religious buildings they are generally put under Good articles/Art and architecture so I thought this might fit best there too. Keep in mind the cats are not perfect and will never be as we have a vast diversity of articles here. It is more so editors can relatively easily find good examples of articles similar to one they might be looking to improve for inspiration. It won't effect anything here or in project space. AIRcorn (talk) 18:33, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Dear AIRcorn: Thanks for the response. In terms of accuracy, 'Demolition of al-Baqi' is an event, i.e. destruction of Baqi, not a building. That was why I though that would be better to be in Good articles/Philosophy and religion. That's just my opinion of course. -- M h hossein   talk 18:48, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Changed back and added to events. AIRcorn (talk) 23:30, 6 July 2018 (UTC)