Talk:Denial, Anger, Acceptance/Archive 1

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this is my alltime favorite episode in the history of sopranos because it portrays the demise of my most favorite character, Brendan Filone, in the most excellent manner. I love Brendan Filone and I always will. - Zarbon

It's my favorite too. I will explain some changes I made. I wrote the original summary and always welcome changes to my content. But lines like "Brendan wasn't so lucky" and "giving a new definition to bloodbath" are a little too much on the commentary side. Also, Livia isnt saying she "doesnt know" Brendan in the way it was written. I also put back in Livia saying she was a babbling idiot and referencing Tony putting her in a nursing home. That's an important fact because Livia is helping JR deal with Tony's crew to get him back for putting her in there. I also changed the ending back to say the music from Meadow's recital can be heard over both Brendan's execution and Chrissy's "talking to", not just the execution. -wm

- regardless, i'll leave in the part with livia's babbling idiot but i want the end concentration to be about brendan's demise more than christopher's mock execution. Brendan's excellence must be portrayed. - Zarbon

You are trying to alter what happened on the show because of what your affection for one very minor character. A summary of the show should not used to glorify a character, especially one who only appeared in 2 episodes. And again, lines like "giving new meaning to 'bloodbath'" don't belong in a encyclopedia article about a TV show. - wm

it doesn't matter. will that one line kill you? No. But it will kill me if its not there. I live for Brendan Filone. - Zarbon

I added the bloodbath line to the trivia section, and "hi jack" should be "hijack", right? I take that to mean Mikey is punning "bye jack" from the word "hijack" because they hijacked the trucks. Or else, he would just be calling Brendan "Jack", which makes no sense. - wm

It's been confirmed as Hi Jack, By Jack! not hijack bye jack. It's not a pun on the hijackings. He says Jack the name in reference to the old saying that "jack" is a regular "joe", etc. Jack is referred to as someone who doesn't matter. It's based on this inclination, not the hijackings. - Zarbon

Confirmed by? -wm

By numerous sites...the episode transcript itself, and more importantly, the official hbo site back in 2000 in the family tree. The tree has currently been removed, but this issue was discussed fully and a resolution was made. The word "Jack" is a reference to a nobody-esque fellow. For more information, see the history of the song by Ray Charles..."Hit the road, Jack." Also, I live for Brendan Filone since he's literally my alltime favorite character so when I say I'm sure, I'm sure. Hope I cleared it up for you. - Zarbon

I would prefer facts. -wm

have you ever tried common logic as reference? Why would Mikey follow it up with "Bye Jack"? There's no such word as byejack....so it's obviously hi Jack...catch the drift? Or are you still unconvinced? - Zarbon

Yes. I am still unconvinced. Without the obvious reference to the hyjacking of the trucks, it's one of the corniest lines ever. But since we know he is getting killed because he was a hijacker, it's obviously a pun by Mikey. Do you honestly think Mikey would have still said "hi jack" if he was shooting brendan for...let's say murder? THen it would make ZERO sense, the phrase "hi jack" relates directly to the hijacking acts of Chrissy and B. -wm

I can't believe you blatantly go around on other sites (IMDB) and call me a crazy person. You are the crazy person. Wikipedia is not owned by you. Everyone is allowed to edit the episodes thoroughly and I suggest you read up on the rules before acting so foolishly and saying things like that from now on. And on another note, you aren't the first person to do the episode write-ups. I originally had done them myself but wiki removed them per licensing problems. The only episode I am focusing on is 2 and 3 because they revolve around my favorite character. But that has nothing to do with the fact that you showed blatant disregard and said inappropriate things about me. Please do not continue to commercialize the wikipedia effort as your own work, or i will have to report your actions.

Here's the proof of the things you said:

'''"A few weeks ago I noticed that The Sopranos did not have a separate episode by episode information page like many shows. So, I knocked one out for 6_01 (summary, trivia, new characters, deaths, etc). Lots of people followed up, edited my page, added content, etc. It was pretty cool (yes, I am the one who started it). Anyway, I figured I would try to write them all. After I got a few under my belt, some other guy started writing them, and then another. When I started the page for last night's episode, that made 26 total, with 13 penned by your friend and humble narrator.

'''I stumbled into a problem on my all-time favorite episode, 1_03. It's the one where Brendan gets whacked at the end. A crazy person keeps coming behind me changing the content to glorify Brendan. I have made compromises, trying to get him to go away, but his basic idea is that Brendan is the greatest character ever and the page should be devoted to him." "you're out of your tree."  - Zarbon

please report me if you want. Like I said, i have written over a dozen episode guides and they have all been edited by other people, which is the spirit of this website. I welcome and am excited by the process of standing on the shoulders of others and then having them stand on mine. But your edits don't belong on a encyclopedia on the subject. They belong on a cheerleading website devoted to your favorite character, brendan. -wm

that's why it's your opinion. But since evidence has shown, you find it preferable to go around in other forums and distribute nonsense, unbeknownst to wiki members that you call them "crazy" and you name the wiki work as solely your work. - Zarbon

then report me. -wm

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If you want to know how the "Hi jack" line was spelled, put in a dvd of the episode, put on closed captions, and look at the spelling. Also, please try and keep some format to the discussion page by using subject lines for topics.

I did and I was right, obviously. Since the dvd's are multilingual and have many languages, even in the spanish version, its captioned as "Hi Jack", not "hijack." - Zarbon