Talk:Dent site

Edits to article
I reverted the edits to the article, because there was removal of sourced material - by an IP address user (WP:Vandalism?). Let's discuss the concerns here.--CaroleHenson (talk) 16:03, 18 December 2011 (UTC)


 * One unsourced edit: "Dent is often reported to be the first evidence of Man and mammoth found together or alternatively to be the first Clovis site excavated. It is neither.   The first report of professional work at the Blackwater Draw Clovis  site is in the November 25, 1932 issue of Science News.[citation needed] The publications  on Burnet Cave and Blackwater Draw directly contradict statements by several authors (for example see Haynes 2002:56 The Early Settlement of North America) that Dent, Colorado was  the first excavated Clovis site. The Dent Site, in Weld County, Colorado, was simply a fossil  mammoth excavation in 1932. The first Dent Clovis point was found November 5, 1932  and the in situ point was found July 7, 1933. The in situ  Clovis point  from Burnet Cave was excavated in late August, 1931 (and reported early in 1932). E. B. Howard brought  the Burnet Cave point to the 3rd Pecos Conference, September 1931, and showed it around to several archaeologists interested in Early Man (see Woodbury 1983)[citation needed]."
 * Incomplete situation swapped out for a complete, valid citation.
 * Removal of "is the first culture in the Americas to use projectile points in hunting.  Previous to that, indigenous people used a tool-kit like that used in Asia, which included large axe cutting tools, scrapers, blades and flake tools."  Is there another culture that I'm unaware of on the North American continent that used projectile points BEFORE the Clovis point?--CaroleHenson (talk) 16:21, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

Comments about edits:
 * I think that the problem here is wording. Yes, when I did the research I saw the info about Blackwater Draw.  I think the point here is that Dent is the "earliest" evidence of man with mammoth.  "First" was probably not the best word to use.--CaroleHenson (talk) 16:29, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't understand swapping out an incomplete citation for a complete one. If you prefer to use a later source (good idea), can we get the complete info for it before we swap it out.--CaroleHenson (talk) 16:30, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Don't understand the removal of Clovis being the first culture to use projectile points in the Americas. Was there an earlier culture that used projectile points in the Americas?--CaroleHenson (talk) 16:32, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

I am very happy to help sort out the edits, but they seem to be more a sign of vandalism than anything else. If I'm wrong, again, I'd love to sort it out.--CaroleHenson (talk) 16:32, 18 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Found info about the Manis Mastodon Site (reported in 2011) and updated the article accordingly.--CaroleHenson (talk) 17:04, 18 December 2011 (UTC)