Talk:Department for Work and Pensions

Budget
I put a cite needed tag on the budget figures for SR04. If we're going to have those in there, does anyone have a source we can use? Or are these numbers out of date yet (I confess to having no idea where DWP is in the CSR process)? Bobenigma 22:51, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Pension, Disability and Carers Service
The Pension Service has now Merged with The Disability Carers Service - if anybdy is interested! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.13.137.40 (talk) 21:24, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

The Pension Service and the Disability Carers Service are now one executive agency, which has retained the sub-brands (as mentioned above in the previous post). The front screen of the DWP 'About Us' section is out of date and refers to the three organisations which are now only two. If one clicks on the 'Customer Delivery' seen here it clearly refers to Jobcentre Plus and the PDCS BNC85 (talk) 11:20, 26 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks for correcting my edit there. I thought that using the DWP web site as a reference was safe.  Obviously not! --Phil Holmes (talk) 14:20, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Hi can you tell me why you have only put £10 into my account many thanks Jinna1963 (talk) 09:23, 22 December 2016 (UTC)

Update to article
I have updated the article and moved a few sections around to reflect the abolition of executive agency status for all the organisational units (Pension Service etc.). I have moved the bulk of information about the Pension Service and the DCS into this article rather than having the information on the Pension, Disability and Carers Service page as effectively, the PDCS is now a former executive agency. BNC85 (talk) 14:38, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

August 2015 "deaths within 6 weeks" controversy
This is a tricky one, as everywhere is covering it inaccurately. Firstly, the figure is 2,650. The FOI release lists ESA off-flows (2,380) IB/SDA off-flows (270) ESA off-flows with appeal (1,340) and IB/SDA off-flows with appeal (20). The vast majority of media outlets have either added these figures up to get 4,010, which double counts the appeals group, or only given ESA off-flows, which ignores the IB/SDA off-flows group. The true number of people dying within 6 weeks of being found fit for work for the time period requested is 2,650 (2380+270) but this correct figure has hardly been mentioned. It was in a Stoke Sentinel article: http://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/BIG-ISSUE/story-27695515-detail/story.html but that's the best I could find. For now, I've put it in the article with a citation directly to the DWP release. The second thing is that these values tell us nothing, there's no denominator. If that's 2,650 deaths of 3,000 people then that's a huge figure. If it's 2,650 deaths of 1,000,000 people then it's tiny. The release included the mortality rate for people on JSA (who are necessarily considered fit for work) and that mortality rate is lower than the age standardised mortality rate for working adults, which would mean no problem at all. People die, it just happens. The science writer Ben Goldacre has written in slightly more simple terms about how the released figures are useless and tell us nothing https://storify.com/bengoldacre/how-dwp-has-confused-everyone-by-releasing-the-rig I am putting this here because there has been an outcry over the release, stemming entirely from positions of ignorance, and even though this includes big names (Jeremy Corbyn, Andy Burnham, the Young Greens, etc. all called for Ian Duncan Smith to resign) the article should be trying to inform on the topic rather than feed in to the panic about it. Wikiditm (talk) 09:35, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

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 * I fixed these using the National Archives Farleysmaster (talk) 22:23, 2 August 2016 (UTC)

Annual Budget (infobox)
Two points I wanted to raise here... 1) References are out of date, there is a copy of the 2016 budget on the .gov site however I've spent a while looking through the figures etc and I am now left more baffled! 2) figures being displayed as $ rather than £. As this article refers to the UK Government Department and is referring to its fiscal matters surely it should be in £ ? • BalchMike      ⋠talk⋡  23:47, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
 * I've found the budget/spend details for 2015-16 and will have a go this evening. Farleysmaster (talk) 08:09, 2 August 2016 (UTC)


 * ✅ Thank you, great piece of resourcing, I've added tags to give a clearer reading entry.  •  BalchMike      ⋠talk⋡  20:42, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
 * No worries. And fixed that code above for you. :) It was a bit of work sorting out all the refs there, but I think it will be easy to do for other articles now. Farleysmaster (talk) 21:44, 2 August 2016 (UTC)

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Guardian: UK childcare payment system discriminatory and irrational, judge rules
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 * https://www.theguardian.com/money/2021/jan/22/uk-childcare-payment-system-discriminatory-and-irrational-high-court-judge-rules

Thanks

John Cummings (talk) 14:45, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

depart for work pensions phone number
phone number for work pesions 92.22.191.191 (talk) 10:49, 28 September 2023 (UTC)