Talk:Dependent area

If the Balearics, the Canaries, the Basque Country, and Catalonia are in here, why aren't the rest of the Spanish autonomous communities, and for that matter American states and Canadian provinces? - Montr&eacute;alais


 * You're right. The initial sentence of the article specifies that this is a list of colonies, overseas territories and other not or only partially independent country-like units. The Balearics, etc. are Autonomous communities of Spain and should be removed. D.D. 00:12 Feb 7, 2003 (UTC)


 * Other question: shouldn't Tibet be mentioned here? According to China it's an integral part of that country; on the other hand, it does have a government in exile. I would classify it as a non-independent country-like unit (however vague that term is). D.D. 00:23 Feb 7, 2003 (UTC)


 * Agree. This is actually the beauty of Wikipedia vs a commercial Encyclopedia. Wikipedia can keep an NPOV without being afraid of offending any particular political entity. Sebastian 03:48 Feb 7, 2003 (UTC)


 * The problem is that the government in exile is not international recognized, and there is no formal recognition by any government that Tibet is a dependent area. The other issue is that the government in exile does not de-facto control Tibet.  Finally, I doubt that the Tibetan government-in-exile claims that Tibet is a dependent area of China, rather their claim is that it is an independent nation under occupation which is different from a dependent area.


 * One more thing. On Wikipedia, You don't have to worry so much about offending a particular political entity, but you do have to worry about offending people who do agree with that political entity. -- User:Roadrunner

Why are Sicily and Sealand on this list? Sicily is an integral part of Italy, no more a dependency than Tuscany. And Sealand would claim not to be a dependency of anybody. -- Zoe

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Removed Spratly Islands. It's disputed territory not a dependent area.

A general comment. Since there seem to be so many different entities (colonies, overseas territories, disputed territories, occupied territories, territories with a government in exile, etc...), why don't we change the name of this article into non-independent areas (which is a broader term than dependent areas). Then we can subdivide the list in all these different entities, a bit like the Dutch language wikipedia has done here. Of course, independent countries and integral parts of countries (states, provinces, etc...) should not be included. Any comments? D.D. 11:17 Feb 7, 2003 (UTC)

The above proposal has been here for 9 days. Since there has been no reaction I have moved the page. I have subdivided the list into two main parts: "dependent areas" and "other non-independent areas". I realise that the latter currently contains a very uncomplete mix of entities, but of course this can be improved a lot (I haven't been able to find a better name for it yet). D.D. 09:58 Feb 16, 2003 (UTC)

Moved content
I merged the content of this page into the List of dependent territories. Electionworld 11:09, 2 September 2005 (UTC)