Talk:Der Flügel

Contested deletion
This page should not be speedy deleted as pure vandalism or a blatant hoax, because... (your reason here) --Vivek ji123 (talk) 08:22, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Please check the articel and you will find the reason. :-) --Outdoor-Bro (talk) 09:37, 29 October 2019 (UTC)

This page appears to be entirely based upon a garbage article in the Far-Left New York Times and a couple of other left-wing sources and is therefore unbalanced and ripe for deletion. 2A00:23C4:B607:CF00:C40C:3F62:8EBB:7BE9 (talk) 19:34, 18 July 2020 (UTC)


 * don´t think so, the aricel is hort, but valid!--Bestof2022 (talk) 20:09, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

This article is NOT up-to-date
Compare with https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Der_Flügel LMSchmitt 13:16, 27 September 2022 (UTC)

[a] Der Fluegel was abolished 4/2o2o by the AfD party, after being put under surveillance by the German Verfassungsschutz (Federal Constitution Protection Service).

[b] The online-presence of Der Fluegel disappeared. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LMSchmitt (talk • contribs) 13:26, 27 September 2022 (UTC)

Infobox reverts
@Gooduserdude, could you please explain exactly what parts of my edits to the infobox constitute original research? The body of the article states that: "The Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution (BfV) classified Der Flügel in January 2019 as a suspected case of right-wing extremism, since its "propagated policy concept was aimed at exclusion, contempt and far-reaching rights of foreigners, migrants, especially Muslims, and politically dissenting people.""

None of my edits contradict this.

Additionally, even though Der Flugel is not technically a political party, the political party infobox is still much better suited for this type of page; I'm genuinely not sure why the legal status of the organisation matters.

Thanks, Loytra (talk) 17:42, 3 May 2024 (UTC)


 * I am also curious. The political info box fits better and none of your edits looked like OR to me Carlp941 (talk) 21:26, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
 * @Loytra, @Carlp941 Your Quote "exclusion, contempt and far-reaching rights of foreigners, migrants, especially Muslims" sounds like a typical anti-islam right wing populism, where does it say "anti-semitism"? otherwise you have to explain how your addition dosent violate WP:LABEL Gooduserdude (talk) 08:31, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
 * The body of the article also states:
 * "Henry Bernhard of DLF wrote in 2019 that the group's radicalization was apparent at the group's annual meetings (Kyffhäusertreffen), with the group increasingly accepting "racism, Islamophobia, anti-Semitism, xenophobia, historical revisionism," and the downplaying of Nazi crimes.[7] Höcke and Kalbitz are controversial for their links to neo-Nazi groups."


 * I'm restoring my edits, as it seems you didn't do any research at all (including simply reading the article) before removing them. Loytra (talk) 08:56, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

Ideology
Hi @ZlatanSweden10 and @ProKMT I tagged you because you were the last users to edit the article. I propose to add one of Neo-fascism or Neo-nazism. Hidolo (talk) 23:56, 1 July 2024 (UTC)


 * I don't know enough about this faction so I don't feel I have the right to speak about this with great confidence. Hope you find someone else though who can actually help you! ZlatanSweden10 (talk) 12:00, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
 * It is okey. Hidolo (talk) 21:38, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I don't think Völkisch nationalism and fascism are the same thing. I don't think it's appropriate to add Neo-fascism or Neo-Nazism to the infobox. ProKMT (talk) 07:59, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
 * adding of neofascism to the main infobox does not mean that völkisch nationalism is. Internal organization of the AFD is not a synonym for völkisch nationalism. Based on that, I think neofascism should be added, since even according to NYT a court declared that the group can legally be described as neofascist. Hidolo (talk) 10:41, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Legally being allowed to describe a group as something under libel laws and that group actually being that thing are two very different things. Libel is a protection only in extreme cases in most countries. JustAPoliticsNerd (talk) 19:41, 20 July 2024 (UTC)