Talk:Design management/Archive 1

External links cleanup
Made another round at cleaning up and organizing the external links. There were still a lot of non-English sites, weblogs, and other promotional sites that appeared to violate WP:SPAM and WP:EL. It's always difficult to draw the line on what types of links are deemed appropriate. Obviously, we're not going to list every organization/institution. --Ronz 19:11, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

I cleaned up the link list again. Links to websites with design or innovation are not relevant (they should be in the article/portal about design), the linked website should contain information about design management. Wiki4des (talk) 22:47, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Undo of some relevant revisions done by User "Mikkalai"
a) Added the section on design management versus design leadership back again since this is a very critical distinction between highly relevant concepts discussed controversely across the design management community these days.

b) Added the link to the Design Management Blog again based on my arguments explained in December 2006 above

Rbeuker 20:11, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Opening paragraph is of low quality
The opening paragraph has a Gunning Fog index of 21.25. Since Wikipedia is intended to address general audiences, I hope that anyone who considers themselves an expert in design management will re-write this paragraph so that those who are not already management consultants can understand it. As it stands, it's pretty hopeless. --gilgongo (talk) 22:24, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Simplified opening paragraph to a Gunning Fog index of 16.78 84.46.36.183 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 18:03, 12 January 2011 (UTC).

Quick review
I'm glad that someone is working so hard on this article. Much improved!

I quickly skimmed it, removed some linkspam, and tagged two sections that were poorly sourced. I also noticed that some of the related articles that are incorporated as sections or otherwise heavily summarized (eg Design leadership, Design thinking, Architectural management, Innovation management) are rather poor articles themselves. --Ronz (talk) 23:32, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

thanks Ronz, further improved Wiki4des (talk) 21:17, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

I don't think this is quite ready for GA yet, but I'm not going to do a proper review due to my life being too busy. / ƒETCH COMMS  /  18:11, 20 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Some additional comments:
 * Too long, takes forever to load. Can't this be shortened at all?
 * Some over-referencing going on; I see "[12][13][14][15]", "[39][40][41][42][43][44][45][46]", "[58][59][60][61]", "[66][67][68][30][69][70]", "[84][85][86][87][88]", "[78][71][79][80][81][82]", "[65][71][72][73][74]". etc. Please try to keep it to three or fewer refs per fact; if you have six refs backing up six facts, don't put all six refs at the end of one paragraph, distribute them after each fact.
 * Needs a copyedit. WP:GOCE may be able to help.
 * Lots of unreferenced or poorly referenced sections. "Design", "Management", "Managing product aesthetics and corporate design (early contributions)", "Managing design systematically (1960s–1970s)", "Managing design as a strategic asset (1980s–1990s)", "Managing design for innovation (2000s–2010s)", "Managing design in politics (till 2000s)", "Design management in education (till 2000s)", "Current developments", "Service design management", "Business design management", "Design management hierarchy", "Design management in education", etc. Some have no refs whatsoever, while others have refs for maybe one or two paragraphs but not the other paragraphs.
 * Remove all external links that are in the prose (e.g., "D-schools 2009").

reduced over-referencing and removed all external links in prose Wiki4des (talk) 14:09, 26 March 2011 (UTC)

Article improvements
The article can be further improved in terms of copy-editing, in order to make it smoother to read. Wiki4des (talk) 12:34, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Especially the section "Value for business" needs to be simplified and / or rewritten and extended Wiki4des (talk) 13:08, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
 * the section "Different types" also needs some improvements Wiki4des (talk) 13:08, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

Complete article has been spell-checked. Wiki4des (talk) 17:35, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Great work! --Ronz (talk) 20:12, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
 * thanks Ronz. Wiki4des (talk) 13:08, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

Complete article has been copy edited by the Guild of Copy Editors in a group effort Wiki4des (talk) 20:51, 8 August 2011 (UTC)