Talk:Desmond Hume

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This STUFF Hey where did all this stuff about desmond come from, as i remember it never said his last name. and whats with the pic and the flash back stuff???

Watch the finale. His full name is one of the first things you learn.--Aresef 03:39, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Cook?
When was it revealed that Desmond's last name was Cook? I've seen that rumor floating around, but only it synopsises of the finale which have all been proven to be false. - Nihl 23:48, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

So now that it's been proven to be Hume for the last name, I can't fix much on my simple little PDA. Also, he apparently was a dishonorably discharged soldier, as noted in the first half on the second season finale. -- ArkansasTraveler 01:34, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

This provides a clear "poster child" example of why we shouldn't allow changes to be made based on rumor or fan speculation. There was never any citation of a reliable source for "Cook", and, of course, we now know that it's wrong. When reverts are made to unsourced changes in the future, let's remember why. -- PKtm 04:08, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

--- CONCERNING THE PHILOSOPHER

I don't know how to edit this, but the topics about cause and effect related to Hume, whether or not Desmond was based off of him, can be found in Hume's "An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding (1777 edition)" In particular Section IV: Sceptical Doubts concerning the Operations of Human Understanding. Mention of Locke is found throughout the source.

URL: http://etext.leeds.ac.uk/hume/ehu/ehupbsb.htm#index-div1-N997105663

Copywright to the online version is Peter Millican, 1996, but he says it can be used for academic purposes, which I hope this is otherwise I am going to jail. If someone knows how to put these citations into the article in question that would be cool.

the observation station
The men in the Antarctic observation station were speaking Portuguese, but the dialect was distinctly Brazilian. Trigear 04:07, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

i believe penny widmore is portrayed by the actress sonya walger. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Nexus999 (talk • contribs) 03:31, 26 May 2006.

Desmond drew a mural in the hatch with Hurley's numbers hidden in it. If you look closely, you can also see abstract airplanes and little people drawn in black, sidways(?) (?I'm assuming that this means all the people are dead?)66.82.9.86 (talk) 22:42, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

Philosophy?
I really don't believe this belongs in Wikipedia, it seems to be a clear example of original research. I see someone's already flagged it. Personally I'd suggest removing it. Any thoughts? SynergyBlades 18:21, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
 * I agree. Newt 19:40, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
 * interesting but clearly original and hypothetical, both regarding character's internal process and symbolic significance of the name. 69.49.44.11 15:07, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I agree - this is original research. Interesting reading, but this is not the place for it.  Andy 00:27, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

I've removed the entire section as I don't think any of it is salvagable as encyclopedic. If you disagree feel free to try and reinstate whatever you think is necessary, or discuss it here. SynergyBlades 17:00, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Major Clean-Up Needed
Verb tenses do not agree through-out, particularly in Section 1.2, On the Island. Additionally, the info in the box with Desmond's picture, stats, etc. (don't know what it's called) needs to be properly aligned... Justified text does not work there. Meg 00:44, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Rank?
Was it mentioned what rank he held before being discharged from the army? - SigmaEpsilon → &Sigma; Ε 21:50, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

He was a Lance Corporal.

Desmond, as revealed in The Constant, was a Private. 66.82.9.86 (talk) 22:37, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

Categories
Since "fictional soldiers" is a subcategory of "fictional military personnel", is it really necessary to put the article in both categories? DGemmell 19:31, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Travelling back in time?
I was surprised to read Desmond's falling off the ladder while painting his apartment, interpreted as travelling back in time after turning the fail-safe key on the island. I interpreted the ladder scene as simply a flashback scene. Then when he gets whacked in the head at the pub, I just interpreted that as the end of the flashback, not a transportation back to the island. Comments? Genuinearticle 06:25, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
 * The show didn't make it clear, and it's certianly open to interpretation. Without the show actually saying he travelled through time, the article shouldn't either, it's original research.  I'm removing the "time travel" category.  --Milo H Minderbinder 18:58, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I normally don't edit articles related to television series or fictional characters, so I'm not going to push this very hard. If you go to the show's official website and listen to the podcast dated 2/20/07, the show's executive producers make clear the events which took place in the episode Flashes Before Your Eyes "really happened". That's out there for all to hear, it's not original research. In the episode, Desmond turns the key and then finds himself years in the past. I generally think this constitutes time-travel. If you disagree with me that's OK, I won't be adding the category again. --Wgbc2032 21:36, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
 * They did say "it really happened". That doesn't mean he time travelled, and they don't specifically say he time travelled.  --Milo H Minderbinder 21:40, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
 * i agree. i think when they say "it really happened", they mean that the events did happen, but only in Desmond's head.  I interpreted it as an elaborate construct within Desmond's subconscious that allows him to explore his reasons for not marrying Pen.  It was really just a different take on the whole flashback thing. Deutschebag17 19:48, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Shouldn't we remove this article from the 'precognition' list as well by these standards? --Wgbc2032 22:21, 13 March 2007 (UTC) Given the events of "The Constant" I'm adding the time travel category back. Tophu (talk) 16:09, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I think Desmond also knows when he's going to die, which would explain how Our Mutual Friend will be the last book he reads before he dies. The book is worth a mention.(Myscrnnm (talk) 05:40, 3 March 2008 (UTC))

I have to say that because the producers of LOST have absolutely confirmed that the season 4 episode was NOT a flashback, that Desmond was actually traveling in time, that his adventure that took place 'in the past' should be discussed in his Pre Island history, as that is when it technically happened. I know that Time Traveling is very fractious, whether it is a BACK TO THE FUTURE TIME TRAVEL where everything that is supposed to happen has to happen first; or BILL&TED Time Traveling where everything you do in time traveling has already happened. My two cents, is that Desmon's BEFORE THE ISLAND history should reflect his time travel. Whippletheduck (talk) 03:17, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

"Based on" ???
The article claims that Desmond is "based on" both Odysseus and on Johnny from The Dead Zone. I didn't doubt the Odysseus thing, for some reason; it wasn't until I saw the Johnny thing that I realized that *both* of these assertions actually need to be backed up. They seem plausible, given how Lost gleefully reaches into all kinds of past and present culture for influences, but is there a source to cite for these statements? Sorry for being a stickler or whatever. 74.36.50.246 05:01, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Desmond is very obviously Odysseus: 1. Odysseus had to sail around the world to get home. Desmond was sailing when he got lost on the LOST island 2. Odysseus was married to Penelope. Penelope had many suitors trying to win her hand Desmond loves his Penny and would give anything to be back with her. Penny was trying to      hold off her marriage with a guy she had gotten engaged to.

These are just a few of the simlarities between the two. I'm sure I can find more somewhere. 66.82.9.86 (talk) 22:35, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

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Desmond & Slaughterhouse Five
In Slaughterhouse Five, the protagonist becomes “unstuck in time”, which is the same exact phrase that is used in Lost by Daniel Faraday to describe Desmond’s condition. (It also has extremely similar symptoms :]) —porges(talk) 08:11, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

-- First Appearance -- Wasn't his first appearance the pilot episode? He is the second character, the first seen by Jack to run by. This occurs, timeline-wise, after he killed the man on the shore and the scene was played in the intro to that episode. 76.116.90.5 (talk) 20:16, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

what the hell is going on with desmond in season 6 ?
yeah, in season 6 , des just like an organizer ,who told him to do this ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Licheng668899 (talk • contribs) 15:24, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

What button?
Under #Prior to the crash, we're told "Desmond is too worried about the button to leave." No explanation is given of what "the button" refers to. Could some clarification be added? – Arms &amp; Hearts (talk) 16:36, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

Spelling botch

 * Just a heads-up to whoever knows anything about the subject,
 * edits made on 21:52, 22 July 2012‎ by SeekHim changed the tense of the section on Season 6, mostly by changing words that end with "ed" to "s", but missed the spelling. Comparison:
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Desmond_Hume&diff=503689185&oldid=503390045
 * so "Widmore returned" is changed to "Widmore returnes"
 * I was just having a quick peek, I know nothing about Lost, so don't really want to touch it. Kid Bugs (talk) 00:36, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

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