Talk:Devil (Islam)

meaning of the name ?
"Islam traditionally derived the name from the Arabic verbal root balasa بَلَسَ, meaning 'he despaired'; therefore, the meaning of Iblīs would be 'he/it that causes despair'.[2]"

shouldn't ''he/it that causes despair' be he who despaired ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.42.57.157 (talk) 12:32, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

According to the source, his good name of Iblis when he was "in favor of God" meant "He who causes despair?" Are there others in God's cabinet with names like this? Hard to imagine this would be a popular name in heaven. Why bother changing it to Satan if that is really the true meaning or root of the name Ibis. Probably hard to make friends with a name like that. Do we think that is why he left? If you were the only one God named "He who causes despair" would that make you feel a little self conscious? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.18.3.5 (talk) 04:56, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

Angel or Jinn?
It says here that Iblees was a Jinn that did not bow before humans, but he is first referenced in the Quran at 2:34 "And [mention] when We said to the angels, "Prostrate before Adam"; so they prostrated, except for Iblees. He refused and was arrogant and became of the disbelievers." where it sounds like he is an angel, and I can;t find references that state him as a Jinn — Preceding unsigned comment added by 23.24.59.234 (talk) 14:27, 3 September 2014 (UTC)

Even the Quran says, "he was one of the jinn". Islamic scholars are not sure about the essence of iblis. The word jinn also means "hide, crazy or sometimes "an arrogant" one." I made a subject, there the different interpretations of the scholars are listened. I nkow, for some muslims it ist fundamental, he was not an angel, but for others he is viewed as an angel. in Alevi believe he was even an archangel with the name Azazil. I think it is better not to mention the essence of Iblis until we go to the subject with the dirreent interpretations, so everyone can get his own opinnion by the different exegesis. If we say, he tribe of angels, was called jinn, his beeing as a jinn woould not fit to the explaination of the common jinn. — Preceding unsigned comment added by VenusFeuerFalle (talk • contribs) 16:38, 15 October 2016 (UTC)

Edit the language please
It says currently "Iblis was proud and arrogant and considered himself superior to Adam, since Adam was made from clay and Iblis from smokeless fire. For this act of disobedience, God cursed him to". I find these two sentences to be confusing. The second sentence "cursed him" - who is the him? Adam or Iblis? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.227.41.34 (talk) 12:59, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

The Wikipedia page Elect redirects to Election, but this is inappropriate for the link at the end of this page. 2601:646:8482:1F1F:D15B:CF86:F434:2522 (talk) 07:59, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

About split
Since Islam has not just one devil or shaitan, I thought it could be usefull to make a separate article about shaitan (devils or demons) just about the concept of shaitan (and shayateen). including the interpretations from several scholars and exegesis, folklore and that is now mentioned in the section "Other devils and demons". The lead can then changed to lead the specific devil "Iblis", thus I suggested to rename this article to Iblis (again).

Then we would have an article about Iblis, with his role, and the interpretations, development, etymology and so on. And we would have an article for shayateen, with how it is used in Islam, etymology, relation to Iblis and Jinn.

But I am unsure since we would have the following articles about "Shaitan": Satan (with satan in islam as subsection), devil (with devil in islam as subsection), demons (with shayateen), Iblis (esecially for Iblis) and Shayateen.

But I think, it could be worth, to make an artcile for "shayateen" to explain the usage and meaning of this word. Then "Satan" and "Devil" simpley shows a shortened explanation of "that muslim beleive Satan/devil is", like it is now already. Same for the article "demon" just with "shayateen" instead of the particular shaitan "iblis".--VenusFeuerFalle (talk) 20:05, 26 November 2017 (UTC)