Talk:Devon and Somerset Railway

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I don't know much about this line, but I do think it should be covered by Wikipedia. If you have any more info, please add to the article! Regards, Lynbarn 09:47, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Proposed merge
I propose that Barnstaple to Taunton Line and Devon and Somerset Railway should be merged into one article as they both refer to the same stretch of railway line. At present one article is flagged as an orphan with no links, and the other is an extremly short stub. I beleive that "Barnstaple to Taunton Line" should become a redirect to "Devon and Somerset Railway" as that was the statutory name of the line when it was authorised by Act of Parliament. Geof Sheppard 07:24, 3 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Agree There is little information on either article, but merging them as suggested might be the catalyst to start building an authoratative article on the line, perhaps similar to its neighbour, the Somerset and Dorset Joint Railway. Regards Lynbarn 09:25, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Done! Geof Sheppard 07:31, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Link to modern routemap?
The current routemap, indeed the article as a whole, does not provide a link to the article describing the current line at Taunton, it only links to the historic railway company, whose page has no routemap.

A link would be useful to set the historic line in context. (And, while you're at it, how about some LUECKEs on the mainline? :o) )

EdJogg 11:43, 3 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Sorted! But on the principle that old railways should link to old railways – and modern routes should link to modern routes – I have put a map on the Bristol and Exeter Railway page. Geof Sheppard (talk) 09:06, 7 December 2007 (UTC)


 * That'll do nicely! I have also added some RoutemapRoute templates to indicate the main line orientation to 'non-rail readers'. (On a routemap, cannot assume that 'up' is north!)
 * EdJogg (talk) 13:22, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Knackershole Tunnel?
Change: Nightcote Tunnel ---> Knackershole Tunnel

Although this looks like vandalism, I'm not sure that it is. There are plenty of online refs for the name "Nightcote Tunnel", probably because it is extremely short, but this website (not a reliable source, admittedly) suggests that the name "Knackershole Tunnel" was shown on an OS map!

So...Is this an extremely elaborate hoax? or, did the tunnel name change? (when?) or are there two tunnels? Or, what?

EdJogg (talk) 11:50, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I've looked at the OS Map for Dulverton in 1884 but can't see any named tunnels. Do you have a grid ref or other coordinates to narrow it down?&mdash; Rod talk 13:02, 12 May 2009 (UTC)


 * AH-HA!! The key fact is that Dulverton Station is (was) considerably south of the village. Starting from your map and going west (at least once) and south (at least twice) gives this view, and BINGO! right on the bottom edge of the map (left-hand side), just underneath "West Nightcote" is the name "Knackershole Tunnel"!!
 * Fantastic find!
 * So, this is presumably also known as Nightcote Tunnel (I can only see the one tunnel, little more than a bridge, between the two stations), so when was it renamed? (and why?)
 * EdJogg (talk) 15:38, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Whoops! Having reverted the name I now spotted that you have opened this discussion.  I too was in the "is this an extremely elaborate hoax?" camp, so I went back to my printed references and could not find any mention of Knackershole.  Unknown user ... no reliable reference ... probably just a local name ... not used by the railway ... let's do a revert. Geof Sheppard (talk) 07:27, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I did the same thing with the Tower Bridge article on Monday -- easily done when clearing a watchlist backlog at speed!
 * It did take a while to track down through Google. Perhaps not a wise search term? (In fact it's only problematic if you search for "Knackers Hole" (the name of the nearby hamlet/farm/cottage) rather than "Knackershole"!)
 * I could be really awkward and change the name back, and cite it too, seeing as how we now have an on-line map and the more common name isn't actually referenced...but you know I'm not like that. What I will do is add a note (with our first inline reference!) to say that the name has been seen to be different. It would be interesting to find out why there are the two names -- maybe the cartographer simply used the closest name? An email to the owners of the (cottage) website might be productive.
 * EdJogg (talk) 08:25, 13 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Incidentally, are you sure it is called Nightcot e  Tunnel? The nearby villages are East/West Nightcot t . (check the OS Map refs that are in preparation!)
 * EdJogg (talk) 09:09, 13 May 2009 (UTC)


 * OK, officially it must be Nightcote, although Googling will find Nightcott mentioned too.
 * Have you come across this Government spreadsheet? It appears to list over 4500 bridges/tunnels/viaducts/culverts/abutments(!) on closed railways, and provides grid references for them all!! (Nightcote is among them, as is an adjacent tunnel at East Anstey.)
 * EdJogg (talk) 09:41, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

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