Talk:Dexter (TV series)/Archive 3

Early Cuts
The plot synopses in the Early Cuts section are an absolute mess. The spelling and grammar need serious work. I'll get to work on cleaning it up tonight, but I just thought I'd bring it to everyone's attention. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.101.56.3 (talk) 18:58, 24 November 2009 (UTC)


 * I went through and fixed some of the spelling, grammar and capitalization errors. TomCat4680 (talk) 00:02, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Crew Section
The Crew section right after the Characters seems out of place, Its occupying a noteworthy position in the article as the third main heading. It seems unlikely to mention it in the first few sections, other series don't even mention the show runners/writers on their wikis, I suggest moving the section to the "list of Dexter characters" and adding Crew to its heading. Theo10011 (talk) 23:10, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Revealing The Season Finale
They could have watched the East Coast feed on the West Coast, its available nationwide via DirecTV and Dish Network. Also, sorry but Wikipedia contains spoilers. TomCat4680 (talk) 06:11, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

Quinn leaving the show
What's this about Desmond Harrington (Quinn) leaving the show? (It says 2008-2009 in the main cast section). Where did people hear that? Anyone have a source?


 * I believe that's meant as a note that he was not a member of the cast prior to 2008, NOT (necessarily) that his tenure on the show will not continue past 2009. It should probably say 2008-present instead, the 2009 just looks misleading. No casting news for season 5 has been announced (that I have found). 72.150.0.93 (talk) 06:56, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

Rita's KIller
I don't think the article should state that Rita is Trinity's final victim as we don't know yet that it was definitely him that killed her. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.233.63.107 (talk) 18:12, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
 * And, incidentally, I should stop reading Wikipedia articles on TV shows before I'm completely caught up with the series. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.213.236.245 (talk) 06:09, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
 * No, they've said it was Trinity.76.28.242.117 (talk) 02:27, 15 December 2009 (UTC)


 * That interview is between the two actors giving their opinions on what they believe to have happened. None of the series writers have confirmed that it was trinity that killed her and it's a cliff hanger ending so your not supposed to know what happened or else they would lose the viewers for the next series premier.


 * There has been no confirmation from the shows producers that Julie benz is leaving the show (that I have seen) so this whole ending could just be another of Dexters Dreams just like in the episode where he saw Rita and the Kids leaving the police station. Is she dead?, was it Trinity, was it suicide, was it nexts seasons Killer? was it a dream, we just dont know yet.


 * Julie Benz is leaving the show: http://celebrifi.com/gossip/Dexter-interview-executive-producer-Clyde-Phillips-1259049.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.27.235.47 (talk) 06:46, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

A spoiler alert should be included as the final episode has not been shown yet in all countries. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.8.144.118 (talk) 23:00, 16 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Sorry but NO SPOILER ALERTS per WP:SPOILER. (Deftonesderrick (talk) 05:22, 17 December 2009 (UTC))

Despite what the writers, and producers have stated that Trinity is the killer, I think the greater point is that on the show itself, that was never made definitively clear that this was the case, nor was it ever shown. They can easily retcon it later, and have it turn out that the season 7 guest villian David Tennant actually killed Rita for some crazy ass reason.(75.69.241.91 (talk) 05:04, 24 December 2009 (UTC))

Quit kidding yourselves with stupid theories about Rita's killer. It was Trinity, an assertion that has been confirmed by writers and actors on the show (http://celebrifi.com/gossip/Dexter-interview-executive-producer-Clyde-Phillips-1259049.html). Think about it this way -- if Trinity was not the killer, the alternative is some stupid plot twist that would be uncharacteristic of Dexter's competent writing staff. Trinity had the last laugh this season, kiddos. Get over it, and good bye Rita. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.27.235.47 (talk) 06:44, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Again. On the show itself, it was never established who killed Rita. What a producer said later in the course of an interview makes no difference. What is it about that, that you can't comprehend? (75.69.241.91 (talk) 23:25, 4 January 2010 (UTC))
 * Condescension asside, if Rita's killer can be sourced, then put it in. Otherwise let's move on. - JeffJonez (talk) 00:30, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Heraldry in the title?
"The title itself is a reference to the heraldic concept that each coat of arms has a right and left (i.e. dexter and sinister). The dexter side is the positive side. Source: http://www.fotw.net/flags/heraldry.html Heraldic Concepts"

How do we know that the title of the show is not merely a reference to the protagonist's name? And, as it is, Dexter seems to me to be not that uncommon that it would need special clarification. And if I were to speculate on the deeper associations on "Dexter", I would rather mention that the right hand is associated with skill. Hence 'Dexterity'. So, how about some source not on heraldic concepts, but on the intention of the authors for this association. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.183.75.49 (talk) 12:06, 20 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Compelling -- albeit original -- research - JeffJonez (talk) 21:45, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

This page needs a massive overhaul
Early Cuts, the long season synopses, differences from the novel... all sections that need to be greatly shortened or deleted altogether, they've ballooned out of control. Personally, I think the Early Cuts detailed descriptions needs to be summarized in about one paragraph. The season synopses should only be about 2 paragraphs each and the differences from the novel section should be deleted altogether. Citing the books as reference is not enough to show that it's not original research. Anyone else have any suggestions on how we could fix all this? (Deftonesderrick (talk) 20:59, 4 February 2010 (UTC))]

Okay, check this out. This section on the page for the book is a thousand times better than what's written in the "differences" section. I think it should look more like this if it's going to be included on this page. (Deftonesderrick (talk) 21:07, 4 February 2010 (UTC))


 * I agree that the synopses are crazily detailed, and need serious pruning. I'm not impressed with the Darkly Dreaming Dexter link you've shown, however. I can't think of a shortcut here, other than actually boiling down the paragraphs into sentences. - JeffJonez (talk) 21:24, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Well, my example was only for how we could go about trimming the "differences" section so that we can direct people to the books and make their own comparisons. Having the section the way it is now is OR and SHOULD be deleted, but I'm suggesting a way we can keep the section. Other than that, does anyone else want to try tackling the synopses sections and Early Cuts to start with? (Deftonesderrick (talk) 22:21, 4 February 2010 (UTC))

Okay, I've copied the entire page to my Sandbox to test out some new edits of the plot summaries. Anyone, please check them out and let me know what you think. I've gotten about 1000 words trimmed overall and I think it could be more. Any thoughts, leave them on my talk page, I've set up a topic there. (Deftonesderrick (talk) 20:10, 19 February 2010 (UTC))

I've taken my edits and applied them to the page as of today. I'm seriously stuck as to how to make the Plot summaries even shorter, season 4 is the toughest, that's why I'm posting the changes in the hopes that people will SUBTRACT, not add, to them. I've, thus far, reduced the total of all summaries from about 4000 words to 2800.

Here's a short list of what I've changed:
 * Greatly reduced word count of each summary. They all contained far too much detail and I believe they still do.
 * Moved Dexter's back story to a new section called "Series Introduction". This gets all the Harry's Code, having no feelings stuff out of the way, since the overall story arcs for each season get more complicated as the series progresses. I think this section is crucial to this page and needs to stay. That way, each summary can focus on the season's story arcs and not have to drum up all this stuff that's stated in the intro.

Thanks!(Deftonesderrick (talk) 20:28, 26 February 2010 (UTC))


 * So upon rereading since you were working on these sandbox style, I'm wondering if season 4 can't be shortened by getting less specific about how trinity killed each victim; this could be specified as needed like when he explains his sister's death to Dexter. I'd still want to mention that he kills each victim in his cycle in a different way; to me that was a critical plot point as to why the guy was so hard to catch (and I'd want to leave in the method for the first murder of each cycle, again plot point).  But instead of (for example) the sentence about Dex seeing on security camera Trinity "bludgeoning a man to death", we could substitute with just "killing a man."


 * Likewise in the first paragraph: "Special Agent Frank Lundy returns to hunt down the "Trinity Killer" (John Lithgow) who he believes always murders three people very specific sequence: a young woman in a bathtub, an older mother of two falling to her death, and a father of two bludgeoned to death." 


 * This could become something along the lines of: "Special Agent Frank Lundy returns to hunt down the "Trinity Killer" (John Lithgow) who kills three victims in a repeating cycle, using a different method for each, starting with the murder of a young woman who bleeds out in a bathtub.    Yeah I know it still needs work.


 * This allows you to touch on the fact that Lundy has been after this guy with no backup for decades and bring in the repeating cycle angle sooner, which I think is more clear.


 * Also, I'd limit the elements surrounding Angel and Laguerta's relationship even more than you already have; their plot has no real bearing on the major events of the season. It won't cut much length but it won't hurt. Millahnna (mouse)  talk  20:41, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Spoilers anyone
I was reading this page. I am only on season 3, so I skipped the sections about seasons 3 and 4 to avoid spoilers.When I went to the bottom to read about the books, it tells me that a major character dies in Season 4. That seriously pissed me off as a feel that Wikipedia pages should be spoiler free in non-obvious spots. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.107.145.189 (talk) 01:39, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I agree absolutely. Even the season 1 description was a spoiler. I'll be editing this as I watch the show so its less revealing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.17.179.45 (talk) 22:11, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
 * This is an encyclopedia, not a fansite, it is meant to be all inclusive and complete. See WP:SPOILER, if you think a portion of info is inappropriate because of it's place on the page or irrelevant to that section then try reformulating it or moving it to the appropriate place. But do not remove information because you feel it's a spoiler. If you skipped to the section Differences from novels expect it to contain information from the series as well, including info that you might think spoils it. If you want to be kept spoiler free don't read section like "Differences from XX", "Plot", "Synopsis", "Controversy" etc. Instead go to one of the articles about one of the books instead, which should not include info about the series, unless of course in a section called "Differences from the TV series".  X  eworlebi (t•c) 22:32, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Page moved
I moved this page to Dexter (television series) because 'TV' reflects an informal register not appropriate for an encyclopedia. If anyone objects please discuss here before changing it back. -- Aseld  talk  09:50, 12 May 2010 (UTC)


 * : Every disambiguated television series uses (TV series), this is done so per WP:TV-NC. If you which to see this changed you should obtain global consensus before starting to move individual pages. Page moves counter current accepted standards should be done with a Requested move, or in this case, since you seem to be against the entire TV part, be discussed on the guideline page.  X  eworlebi (t•c) 10:12, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure what it's worth, but http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Television this says 'TV' is accepted so I think the move is bad. TV, capitalized, is not informal. Mythic Dawn Agent (talk) 10:17, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Comment Page restored to Dexter (TV series), per pre-existing standard. --Ckatz chat spy  20:11, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Differences from novels
i suggest to remove the "original research" tag from the "Differences from novels" section. in my opinion it is irrelevant in this context. as far as i understand in such factual summaries, primary sources should be enough. in this case - the sources are the books and the tv series chapters. as a person who is familiar with both primary sources - the novels and the tv series, i can verify that the person who has written these parts did an excellent job. what is the others take on this ? Gil.shabtai (talk) 22:01, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

Releasedate dvd season 3 in region 2
The article says the third season will be on dvd in region 2 on 17th of august 2010. I live in The Netherlands, and bought me a legal(!) copy (in dutch package) on the 17th of june this year... what's up with that? 77.167.187.196 (talk) 20:03, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

If it's something being released in August, the pacakging is probably not final yet, so your copy is either a bootleg or somebody was mistaken about the date. (24.62.126.170 (talk) 05:07, 23 June 2010 (UTC))

Dexter isnt a psychopath. He's a sociopath
Psychopaths don't know the difference between right and wrong. Sociopaths do but don't have a conscience so they don't care —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.148.248.45 (talk) 04:16, 24 August 2010 (UTC)


 * That's not exactly how the differences are described in the psych literature I've read, although I'll grant that that I'm not an actual psychologist or psychiatrist. Generally, the one thing that scholars seem to agree on (there DOES seem to be a great deal of debate on the differences) is that psychopaths are organized and calculating and can appear like your normal next door neighbor, while sociopaths tend to be less able to camouflage (some doctors describe this as being because of the lack of caring that you describe).  Have we ever found a source with the intent of the series creator to go one way or the other on this?  I'm kind of getting tired of the slow burn edit war.   Millahnna (mouse)  talk  05:45, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

Merge with other Dexter article
There is already an article on Dexter that covers the TV series as well http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dexter_Morgan Rui —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.54.46.154 (talk) 16:29, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
 * This article is devoted to the series, while Dexter Morgan is devoted to the character. Merging that information here would make this article much too long, and probably would merge better with List of Dexter characters if you wanted to propose a merge. BOVINEBOY 2008 16:35, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Integrate the List_of_Dexter_episodes Please
Dear Editors; This List of Episodes was reverted- & orphaned when removed from this, the relevant article- b/c it allegedly has "nothing to do with Plot"! This rationale is POV- & I disagree inherently. Dexter is a story. Throughout literature thoughtful titles are chosen to illuminate plot materials! Do Dexter's titles refer to anything but the plot? I beg reconsideration.

A deeper issue is the use of "revert" to eliminate relevant material due to perceived conflict with form. I like to think that when new material appearing in one's article upsets one's sense of propriety concerning sections, headers, etc., the truly Editorial thing to do is to  offer suggestion[s] towards a better integration of said new material-- rather than simply  reverting it, & thereby disappearing some useful  information. For instance: if there was any wild hair then one might as easily retitle the relevant section to: "Episodes & Plot" as reduce the content. Or- If you are adamant about your concern, Editor- How about just creating a new section? Certainly we must insist that in any 'Encyclopedia' there's a point at which form must take a subordinate role to 'content' information. And concerning that content-I suppose I could jump around the The Article's 5 plot pages of fan material to extract titles But it would certainly make all sortsof sense for WP's Dexter article to link to WP's own Episode List. At present it doesn't. Isn't this what they mean by "WP:Orphan"? WP is a group project, representing the stages of article consensus... more like a discussion, less like a tug-of-war. "Quick Reverts" are for repairing vandalism, not for individual satisfaction when puzzled by the behavior of an unfamiliar contributor. So- Now I've made my suggestion addressing how the new information could be incorporated to address the previously stated objection- Even though I disagree with that objection. This is called "being nice". I did not "revert the revert", b/c the process of revert is less than thoughtful for what should be a consensus. Now I'll thank the person who reverted the List to replace or re-integrate the material- or give good reason why the material should not appear in the affected articles. Good Morning!  Hilar leo  Hey, L.E.O. 00:40, 24 November 2010 (UTC)


 * As I've said on my talk page, someone wanting to know what happens in the show will be nothing with just the episode titles.
 * List of Dexter episodes is anything but an orphan, and you seem to have missed this but on this article it is linked, as everywhere, in the infobox next to the number of episodes (No. of episodes  57 (List of episodes)), so no this is not what is called an orphan article, more than 50 articles link to List of Dexter episodes including this one.
 * By all means add an extra link in the prose, but the plot section is in my opinion just not the place for it since the episode list does not contain plot information, and the way it was done was in my opinion badly done.
 * For everyones information the edit I reverted was, which moved relevant links to the bottom of the "Series outset" section and added a link to the episode list in a most unusual way in it's place. As I already said on my talk page, someone looking for the plot might rather know that the plot is on the seasonal pages before they start reading the entire section. It was placed under the "Series outset" section, which is by itself about the show setup rather than the seasonal plots.
 * I have no problem with links to episode lists in the article, but in this case I find it misleading to say "go here for the plot" and end up on a page which simply does not contain any plot information.
 * What you call "quick reverts" are not just for vandalism, if it is used for vandalism the "vandalism" button will be used and the edit summary will say so. I was not "puzzled" by your edit, neither did I know you were an unfamiliar contributor, I simply found your change unhelpful and badly executed so I reverted it.  X  eworlebi (talk) 01:38, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

What the hell is with the spoilers?
God, I've only seen the first four episodes so far, and the third main paragraph gives way too many spoilers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.88.97.42 (talk) 03:00, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

WEIRD!? Hacked page?
The page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dexter:_Early_Cuts#Early_Cuts redirects to a page that has the same history and talk page as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dexter_%28TV_series%29 but is not identical in content. How is that possible? 46.177.247.228 (talk) 23:24, 1 September 2011 (UTC) Oh wait it was just fixed, but I see nothing in the history, weird 46.177.247.228 (talk) 23:24, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

Image
I think the previous picture was better &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.142.25.13 (talk &bull; contribs). 03:40, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

Dexter and "Dexter's Laboratory"
In my opinion, the names of these pages are not similar enough to be confused with eachother, and therefore there is no need to clarify the two at the top of the page. If "Dexter's Laboratory" were to simply be titled "Dexter", then it would be necessary to differentiate the two (i.e. "Dexter (TV series)" and "Dexter (Cartoon Network)"), but the "Laboratory" takes care of that. Trut-h-urts man (talk) 18:40, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Upon hearing about Dexter the first time, my first thought was of Dexter's laboratory, and I can guarantee that many people had the same association, since Dexter's laboratory came first. The small clarification is only helpful, since if anyone came to this page by mistake they should be aided to the correct one... we should not make it harder on the readers. Hearfourmewesique (talk) 05:58, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

Main articles
There really needs to be a franchise article for the Dexter template to link to as main, and a Novels article (say List of Dexter novels) for that line in the template, and for general navigability. As there are more than two novels in the series, a novel series article is needed. 65.92.182.149 (talk) 07:46, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Cast
Maybe also good to add in table of cast: Keith Carradine, as Special FBI Agent Frank Lundy, and Jimmy Smits, as ADA Miguel Prado, each appeared in season-long character arcs in Seasons 2 and 3, respectively. It is many people in one season only attending, and these are not necessary to add in the table of cast, but maybe these two shall be there?? Vuono (talk) 08:50, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

Lundy reappears in later seasons too 94.168.179.213 (talk) 17:01, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

Viewers
Is it anyone that have information about total viewers per season to add??!! Most series has this information, but Dexter is poor on information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vuono (talk • contribs) 07:00, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

Dexter The Game 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsACBf5uQfM

From Showtime's YouTube page. No confirmed platforms. Will check for official site information. ggctuk (2005) (talk) 21:05, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Accidental edit
Just wanna say that the edit I made in which I removed some DVD information, was completely accidental. I have no clue how I managed to remove that paragraph while I was making other edits. Don't know how I didn't catch that in the preview. Just wanted to clarify that there was no maliciousness or anything. Thank you. -Punkminkis (talk) 16:46, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

Did you restore the information you deleted? iMatti (talk) 22:35, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

Season 1-7 episode list
I added the links to the Wikipedia page of the season 1-7. (This is my first talk page entry. I think this is what I'm supposed to do.) iMatti  (talk) 22:32, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

Associated Crimes Section - Christopher Scott Wilson
Does anyone else think that the section on Christopher Scott Wilson needs to be rewritten? I appears to be a some quotes, though if they are they are taken out of context from their original articles and don't flow as logical thought. Is this just me? Gremlyn1 (talk) 06:26, 26 November 2012 (UTC)

Harry's role

 * Flashbacks throughout the series show Harry (who died several years previously) instructing Dexter on how to masquerade with typical human behavior, how to cover his tracks after a kill, and even how to stranglehold a target to knock them out and capture them.

My memory is porous, but I'm confident that it's a great exaggeration to say that flashbacks to lessons in technique occur "throughout the series". Flashbacks of any kind are less frequent than the conversations with Harry's ghost. Is it clear what Dexter thinks of these conversations? He knows they're not real; does he see them as manifestations of his madness, or is he merely imagining (in a format made convenient for the audience) what Harry might say?

Sometimes the ghost appears when others are present. I forget, do others hear what Dexter says to Harry? —Tamfang (talk) 04:17, 9 February 2013 (UTC)
 * I have just started watching the series, but it does not seem like Dexter considers himself at all mad (unless this appears later). Looks like he is just remembering conversations with his foster father and these "flashbacks" provide the viewer an explanation of his childhood.Cosainsé (talk) 03:29, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

Sex?
The article says: "This suits Dexter, who believes getting intimate will reveal his darker side to Rita." I thought that Dexter is just not interested in sex? Then it's his lack of interest, not the fear of being exposed, that that makes Rita a suitable partner for him. Am I wrong?Cosainsé (talk) 03:36, 16 February 2013 (UTC) Oh, let me retract - in the Episode 8 Dexter says that every woman he sleeps with sees that he is "empty inside". Still seems not quite the same as revealing a darker side. Cosainsé (talk) 06:21, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

Season 8 Cast
Has the entire cast for season 8 been confirmed? Otherwise the cast chart seems like pure speculation. Do we know that María LaGuerta will not appear in season 8? Given that the show historically has shown characters from the past, it's a definite possibility Maria will appear. Unless it's confirmed, season 8 should be removed from the chart. FearNotMan (talk) 23:14, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

Include the colour keys in the cast table
I think the colour keys should be included in the cast table, like on other shows (CSI, House, NCIS, etc.), instead of having it under the table. Jonny2BeGood (talk) 09:53, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Done. Used grey small text (black stands out horribly). Bromley86 (talk) 11:04, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

Series Outset description refers to characters without context
In several sections of the Series Outset section, characters are referred to without providing context. Examples include: "Special Agent Frank Lundy returns to hunt down the Trinity Killer and begins working with Debra to hunt down Trinity, leading to Debra cheating on Anton with Lundy..." and "Quinn becomes suspicious of Dexter's unemotional manner after Rita's..." and "After being suspended by LaGuerta, Quinn seeks the help of a disgraced fellow officer, to investigate Dexter." and "Dexter kills Fowler, but the crime is witnessed by Fowler's next victim Lumen Pierce"

Readers of this section who aren't familiar with all seasons of the program may ask: Who is Anton? Who is Quinn? Who is LaGuerta? Who is Fowler?

Obviously this section is intended to summarize 8 seasons of a television program, but it's a little too brief in sections when referring to characters without providing even a few words of context as to who they are. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.165.224.29 (talk) 04:00, 9 August 2013 (UTC)


 * This is what the List of Dexter characters article is for. We could link at least one mention of each name to its place in that article, does anyone think that would be an overkill? There are also a few standalone articles, such as Arthur Mitchell (character), María LaGuerta, Joey Quinn etc. Hearfourmewesique (talk) 04:00, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

So many unreferenced character articles
I redirected Jordan Chase's article because it lacked citations and looked like a fanwiki article. As for the others.

These check out as perfect:
 * Dexter Morgan
 * Rita Bennett

These ones could use more citations:
 * Debra Morgan
 * James Doakes

And these only link to the movie database:
 * Harry Morgan (Dexter)
 * María LaGuerta
 * Joey Quinn
 * Angel Batista
 * Vince Masuka
 * Lumen Pierce
 * Arthur Mitchell (character)

I'm not against nominating the bottom 7 for deletion, but I'd much prefer they be properly cited with multiple third party sources of character reviews. 1 Isn't enough.

I'm not at all against nominating Arthur Mitchell or Lumen Pierce for deletion immediately, for they appear in 1 season. Also, don't even bother bringing back Jordan Chase's article unless you're willing to re-write it with cited information only. It wasn't cited with Movie Database like the others were. Mrmoustache14 (talk) 20:32, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

I see someone took the liberty to add citations to some of the articles. Update:

These check out as perfect:
 * Dexter Morgan
 * Rita Bennett

These ones could use more citations:
 * Debra Morgan
 * James Doakes
 * María LaGuerta
 * Vince Masuka
 * Lumen Pierce

Still lack inadequate references:
 * Harry Morgan (Dexter)
 * Joey Quinn
 * Angel Batista
 * Arthur Mitchell (character)

Despite LaGuerta's article being the closest to properly refernced (other than Dex and Rita's of course) her citations only refer to Season's 1 and 2, yet her article's content reflect the first 7 seasons. So with all of the articles please make sure all information matches at least 1 of each citation listed. Mrmoustache14 (talk) 00:39, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

Association with crimes
The opinionated quote "Anyone who thinks the media has nothing to do with [increasing violence in society] is an idiot." goes uncontested. It is not only a great example of how NOT to use logic to make a point, but it's kind of one-sided to let this quote stand without going into the discussion about the influence of media on society. One thing i know, some pretty peaceful societies can have pretty violent TV shows. I'll delete the quote to make this section less opinion/discussion. PizzaMan (talk) 12:45, 10 November 2013 (UTC)

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